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{SPEAKER name="Gordon Ekholm"}
Another problem which is often raised in regards to these contacts across the Pacific: what went to Asia? I mean was the direction all towards the New World and not back from the New World towards Asia? That question is often asked. And uh, it's a good question. Uh, the only general reply I can give to it is that usually when a more advanced culture is in contact with a somewhat lesser culture, the movement is mainly from the more advanced to the lesser culture.

[01:31:55]
{SPEAKER name="Gordon Ekholm"}
Now there, this isn't always true - I mean there were some extraordinary movements of cultivated plants out of the New World into European and Asiatic cultures corn, tobacco, and so on. But very little in the way, of uh, of uh, influence on art or religion or so on. That might be... And if it weren't for the cultivated plants, I mean, I don't think in the history of Europe you would see the American Indian. I mean you wouldn't feel the effect in the flow of European culture, you wouldn't feel the effect much of the discovery of America. Except for cultivated plants. And of course, syphilis - things like that perhaps, but culturally you wouldn't.

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{SPEAKER name="Shirley Gorenstein"}
Well I think, not initially, but certainly within a hundred years, their political relationships developed, and I think things were...

[01:33:11]
{SPEAKER name="Gordon Ekholm"}
Well you mean the, uh, the uh movement of people into the area of the uh, and the uh, movement of product back and forth as well too...

[01:33:22]
{SPEAKER name="Shirley Gorenstein"}
Well I think that uh, I know if you look at the records of parliament they were having debates about uh...

[01:33:28]
{SPEAKER name="Gordon Ekholm"}
Yeah, yeah, yeah.