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{SPEAKER name="WERNER KARL DAHM"}
-- some sock over it or something. [[laughter]]

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{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
Yeah, they had put a collar - [[cross]] - some kind of --

{SPEAKER name="WERNER KARL DAHM"}
Yeah, a collar, yeah, whatever --

{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
-- a strengthening around that, uh --

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-- around -- I think it was one third of the way back from the nose - [[cross]] - they said something like that --

{SPEAKER name="WERNER KARL DAHM"}
Just translating from 'Strumpf'.

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{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
Yeah. [[laughter]]

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'Schtumpf' Was that the - [[cross]] - word that was used-?

{SPEAKER name="WERNER KARL DAHM"}
'Strumpf', yeah.

{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
'Strumpf' Yeah OK. [[laughter]]

{SPEAKER name="WERNER KARL DAHM"}
'Strumpf': Something pulled over it.

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{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
When you, when the Luftwaffe office was set up, design office was set up in '43 some time, did you gradually become less involved in Wasserfall or, er --

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{SPEAKER name="WERNER KARL DAHM"}
Towards the end of '44, we were, uh, gradually less involved. Our project office stayed somewhat involved because we supplied the aerodynamics. But the design, the detailed design went over to the airforce.

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Production must have been still in the main production plant -- Versuchsserienwerk.

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{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
Yeah, so that the, you were producing them in-house --

{SPEAKER name="WERNER KARL DAHM"}
I think so.

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{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
At er, but throughout, although the Flakversuchsstelle came in '43 some time, and then the air raid came, and you were evacuated down to Koelpinsee and so forth, and they set up an office --

[00:15:43]
-- even after all that, for about a year after that, you were still heavily involved in design in the project office at that point. And you were working together with Luftwaffe people in the other bureau who were doing more sort of small-scale design work on detail --

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{SPEAKER name="WERNER KARL DAHM"}
They did the detail design. I was not involved with, welding, whatever, how to produce. Though I think its how to produce, probably our production side was involved too.

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{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
Yeah. But you were - you left me the impression before that you were not as heavily involved in producing the design with the second set of wings, the second swept-back set --

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{SPEAKER name="WERNER KARL DAHM"}
The shape of the second version was done by the wind tunnel, and I was involved in extracting aerodynamic data for the design out of wind tunnel tests. Making estimates initially, say, [[load ??-version?]], the designers needed the wingload.

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I had to try to finagle a wingload and I came to 15 tons, and more than a year later we got finally a pressure dissolution test from the wind tunnel.

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At that time, that was quite a step, and er, the wingload came out at 15 tons! [[laughter]]

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{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
That'll show you your calculations were right.

{SPEAKER name="WERNER KARL DAHM"}
It tells you I was lucky -- because my calculations were simply of, one of estimating a wingload --


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