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{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
So you would have arrived at test stand 7 after the first attempt to launce failed in June, or and probably after the first one had failed too.
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
Second one.
{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
But just before the third one, the third launch succeeded.
[00:24:18]

{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
Uhh, I was at the test stand already with the first launch, the second launch and third.
{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
So you saw them?
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
I saw them. Cut it off, I tell you a story.
[00:24:34]

{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
So you came- so you had seen the launches before?
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
I had seen the launches.
{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
So you had seen those launches before so you were, but you arrived about time that the first successful launch, the famous one in October 3rd 1942.
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
At the time of the first failure, I was already at the test stand too.
[00:24:54]

{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
Mmhmm. You see I thought oh, I was thinking you came in August, Sumpter 1942 and the first successful launch was October '42.
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
Yeah, right.
[00:25:05]

{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
But you had seen--
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
There was one failure before, there was already at the test site.
{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
Uh, it was in August I think.
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
Yeah.
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{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
Uh huh. Um, so that, you were not directly involved in the launching, where you?
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
No, I was not involved in the launch. I was involved in the testing.
{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
Mmhmm, so you--
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
Not anymore in the launch.
[00:25:33]

{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
So test stand 7 had a dual-purpose
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
Test stand 7 had to prepare the vehicle for first the testing on the calibration test stand. Then for the test firing itself, and then for the launch.
[00:25:50]

{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
Mmhmm. So um, because of course now, basically other than the occasional static test on the launchpad, you know you don't have the test stand combined with the launch area itself. But, so you were working with complete vehicles essentially?
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
Yes, that's right.
{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
Not with engines.
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
Not with engines.
{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
Separately.
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
That came later on. That came later on.
[00:26:15]
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
That was more involved with a problem which came through the mass production and were we had not only the test stands at Peenemünde, but we had the test stands at [[Leisten?]] and we had the test stand in Austria, in the [[?]]
[00:26:36]

{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
What was the name? I think I've heard of it.
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
In [[?]], uh, we had
{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
What is? How do you spell that?
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
Um, it will come later on.

Transcription Notes:
Peenemünde