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{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
But California has always had a kind of pull for you, besides being home -- uh, what makes that more interesting to you, as a place to be?

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{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
Oh, I think it has interesting landscape and a big variety. In fact, when we decided we wanted to leave San Francisco, we looked at Santa Fe very seriously.

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{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
Yeah, it's beautiful. [[whispered]]

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{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
At that time, 15 years ago, it was just a little bit too big a break from the home base. I still had professional relationships.

{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
Interesting.

{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
--and the distance to New Mexico would have been too much for that.

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{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
It's a long, long way.

{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
There's no opportunity there, there is a little more now, but there wasn't then.

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{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
Quite an art community there now, it's interesting, I mean a whole new generation of younger people have discovered, which is quite interesting.

{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
Taos is going downhill very fast, but Santa Fe and Albuquerque are very--

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{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
I have friends - the sculptor Larry Bell lives in Topa, and of course Dennis Hopper was down there, and another sculptor Kenny Price, is that - all of them were California, southern California-based people.

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{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
Well you have to divide Southern and Northern California, totally different areas.

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And the East--

{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
Why do you think that's true?

{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
When they pick 'California' - they - Oh! - think, 'Los Angeles' - and San Francisco is something like Washington, you know--

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{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
I know! Why do you think that's true?

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{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
Well, I suppose it began with the movies. The money came from New York, the business, the...

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And Hollywood was chosen for the weather. It was seriously thought of here in Mount Diablo, which is even better, in many ways. But that wouldn't have happened if the movie industry settled in Walnut Creek Valley, which was seriously considered.

{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
I didn't know that.

{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
Yeah.

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And, but then that enormous development of the town by the big moguls, they - Clark and Hill - and they just really created, created Los Angeles out of nothing. Got the water, and advance needs, put in railroads, like the Pacific Electric Railroad, created the Port of Los Angeles,
all that was absolute fabrication. It didn't exist.

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{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
Los Angeles. I was raised there.

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