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{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"} Oh that's amazing!

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"} Yeah. People don't do that.

{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"} No it even looks boundless. Oh that's interesting.
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{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"} Yeah

{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
You see, I've never really been to [[?]] so I don't know the space.

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Well I mean that not even knowing the space the dimensions are, are different in the text, but you'll see that
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{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
In centimeters I noticed.

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Well

{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
I never [[inaudible]]

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Oh, it's true. It certainly is...
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{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
Um, One thing we should talk about seriously is... The thing we talked about a little before but then we just sort of skirted around and we never really did get into it. But.
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I'm very interested in knowing from your own sense what when you talk about things and problems with [[groupness?]] and things..

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Do you want to know... Do you want to see more go to [[inaudible]]. I mean, I mean those are the same photos you already saw
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{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
Yeah, those are the ones I saw

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
I don't know if you want to use these or not but that... these..
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{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
But he has great, he has very good sets of those, so I feel good about that. And I think I asked him to print up 3.
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{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
He only has early photos, remember that.

{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
Yeah

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Up to '73, maybe. Or '72.
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{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
Now, alright. So that the sort of thing I'll have to ask him

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
So that's something you might have to, you might want to,

{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
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{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
[[inaudible]]
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{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
Because he didn't have [[?]] color pictures, he said to get them from you. He was in Chicago
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{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
You can. Yeah, you can get... I mean like I say. Chicago. You got, um,
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{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
Do you have [[?]] color ones here, that you can give me?

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Oh, right now?
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{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
Yeah.

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
No.

{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
See, he doesn't have those

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Well, no. I mean, I wouldn't expect him to. That was like the point. The point is that he, he gets quite a bit of um...
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{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Yeah, it's exactly like I'd jump through it [[laughs]]

{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
[[inaudible]]

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
No. I shouldn't be factious.
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