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Transcription: [00:15:09]
[[silence]]

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{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
[while yawning] let me ask you a question

[00:15:44]
{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Oh, let me just say it's redefined

[00:15:45]
{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
Any contextual material

[00:15:46]
{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Yeah, it certainly redefines

[00:15:50]
{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
When you said [[inaudible]]

[00:15:52]
{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Redefines and mystifies [laughs]

[00:15:56]
{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
uh and our production

[00:16:02]
{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
See- I have two completely different lines of it. If you haven't been raised in a museum context, museum education context, I 100% understand the museums attitude and relation to text [[inaudible]].
[00:16:21]
And the other point of view that I afford, I don't want any of it if it stands for [[inaudible]].
[00:16:31]
I don't, I can't define [[inaudible]] Someone come in with the view [[inaudible]]. And I don't [[inaudible]].
[00:16:44]
But that's a different issue then whether or not it needs to be [[silence]] actual material that's used for human words is not necessarily participation [[inaudible]].
[00:17:06]
It can mean [[inaudible]]. I don't think that information about
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