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{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
There's nothing—there's nothing idiosyncratic, there's nothing to engage me at that point, ah, in the work, and I—

[00:00:12]
{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
Ah. But why does that have to be different every time? I mean, God knows I've seen plenty of that work, but, but the thing that was interesting to me about it- Now, I'm probably more critical of everyone's work than almost anybody; besides, I've been following it very closely, right? What's interesting to me that I could still-after 10 years of looking at the work- respond newly, okay? And then it was interesting for me to examine, for me to examine okay?

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Hmm, hmm [[affirmative]]

[00:00:34]
{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
Then you have to ask yourself - I thought at the same time when I heard he was gonna do that, I thought okay, that's too easy. You know why didn't he could do scrim piece again. But I was really pretty sure he wasn't gonna do - he didn't have any more scrim pieces in him, because he was just going on to other - he was involved in a whole other thing. Then you have to, I mean - because that also gets into the issue of why did [[Trulevel?]] repeat the pieces, [[Verstalachen?]] at the, at the Whitney.

[00:01:01]
I'm not sure new pieces have to be done all the time. You all get so few opportunities. You know, all of you could use more places, okay?


[00:01:11]
{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
No, I, I just -

[00:01:14]
{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
Your vocation is to always do a new piece. At least I under-

[00:01:18]
{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
No, I just - I don't think there's so few places. I really think that there's too much, there's too much for me to do right now. I would even - I'm to the point of even turning things down, I mean, I can't - I don't have that kind of time. Um.

[00:01:33]
{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
Okay alright, but - yes, and I understand that, I probably would tend to do new pieces too if that's the kind of thing I did. On the other hand, there may be lots of people who haven't seen the others and it would be perfectly acceptable if -

[00:01:47]
{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Are you getting into works of... [[crosstalk]]

[00:01:49]
{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
I mean new isn't better.

[00:01:51]
{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Yeah, I know that, I know that. Are you getting into the idea of ah, work in situ, and if so, then you better state that, and say that - because we're on tape here.

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{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
That's what I'm trying to do [[crosstalk]]

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
And um...
[00:02:09]

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