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MINNIE EVANS 7. 3-5-71 Tape W[[strikethrough]]2[[/strikethrough]]I

C.W. to figure out how your paintings could reflect [[strikethrough]]Clay[[/strikethrough]] Klee, they see [[strikethrough]]Clay[[/strikethrough]] Klee in your paintings. They see Rousseau. They see [[strikethrough]]Bausch[[/strikethrough]] Bosch. They see 15th Century paintings. They see Indian art. They see Tibetan art. They see art from all over the world in your pa intings and yet you have never had any formal instructions. It is really amazing how all of this came together in you Could you tell me one of your dreams?

M.E. My dreams?

C.W. Yes, just tell me one of your dreams, all of us-

M.E. Now here about three weeks ago, about a month ago, [[strikethrough]]everybody[[/strikethrough]] before I left home. I see what I dream I had a dream that I was in a parade. It was a kind of a circus parade here on 5th Ave. I was wrapped all up with it.  (C.W. oooh!) And then the man that was, that had the chariot, I didn't see the horse. He had two lions. One lion on one side and [[strikethrough]]the[[/strikethrough]] one on the other and he had those lions, and the music. I don't know where the music was but I heard the music just playing. He said don't be afraid of the lions because they know you. We are going [[strikethrough]]away now[[/strikethrough]] might down, 5th Avenue. Then right in the middle of the street was a big stream of water. I know about half as wide as this room [[strikethrough]]and[[/strikethrough]] it was very [[strikethrough]]big[[/strikethrough]] deep, and I rode right down into that side into that water up to here. Then there was some great big long white fish. (C.W. oooh!) They were about that long with the big [[strikethrough]]white[[/strikethrough]] wide head (C.W. You are describing them as being about two or three feet long) in that water and I tried to catch the fish but I caught one on the headand I couldn't + they were real white. (C.W. Did they glow ? Did they sort of glow?) That's right [[strikethrough]](laughter).[[/strikethrough]]

C.W. Do you pain everyday?

M.E. No not now. I haven't painted now ever since I was sick in November. I [[strikethrough]]went[[/strikethrough]] had been to to the hospital and all of that nacl kinda left me. But I think I'm [[strikethrough]]going[[/strikethrough]] to start back to painting.again. I think that's going to come back to me but it all had left me.

C.W. Now [[strikethrough]]di[[/strikethrough]] when you did paint, did you use to paint regularly? Even when you were a house maid did you use to paint regularly? 

M.E. Yes

C.W. You still had to go to work didn't you?

M.E. Yes, I [[strikethrough]]still[[/strikethrough]] had to go to work.

C.W. Then you must have painted when you came home in the evening. 

M.E. In the afternoon.

C.W. Your first-You didn't use crayons and oils?

M.E. Yes, I didn't use oil. I used crayons. I used ink .

C.W. Colored ink?

M.E. U hu Yes. Colored ink. That's what I did. 

C.W. What did you draw on? What kind of material did you draw on? Did you use canvas or did you use paper?