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10 acc. to Joko all coops incl. coop. pensionan) in real money dropped - before that 1962-65 savings program going well devaluation after Gestapo (Sept 30 1965) period -tried to rebuild savings starting in '66 - not all pengusaha now get raw materials from coop - some buy from traders who come to the village - Pak Harjop. sells areng from Desa Guro to other pengusaha (a truckload arrived during interview) - not all pengusaha sell via coop - formerly those who sold tools directly in southern mountains used bicycles, but now most use colt ((ask when colts came in)) - about 1974 shift to standing from duduk cenkok- acc. to Harjop. this was change on advice of govn. govn. also recommended that masks & long-sleeved skirts be worn, but not carried out because "repot" from end of Japanese occupation till about 1967 problems both with 11 both marketing & getting raw materials problems with raw materials because couldn't get govn. permission to buy rails & problems with marketing because "belum ada pengenbangun" - situation began improving after coop became a legal body - now with "jaman order baru" situation much improved - ((village people divide history into 1. jaman belanda or jaman londo - before 1942 2. jaman jepang - 1942-45 3. jaman order lama - 1945-65 includes "jaman klash I" in 1948 when Dutch took [[crossed out]] back Jogja & "jaman klash II" in 1949 when Jogja reoccupied by Indon. troops 4. jaman Gestok (Gestapu) 1966 Sept 30, 65- installation of fuh. 5. Mar 11, 66 jaman order baru until now [[margin note]] 1898 & 1912 jamanabu from Krakatoa & 1962 from Gunang Agung Bali eg. Gunakanyo came after hujan abu i.e. after 1912 [[/margin note]] - never any work stopages, even if new orders havn't come in yet - 1962-63 mulai berkembang because that was jaman gaber (severe