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- 1 set of talah wayang has at least 20 types
- Sagiyo says better to work at table because says not so tired 
- best pandugan from sawo wood because smooth + doesn't get rough with use after talahs have gone in + out
- talah dipped in batik wax frequently [crossed out] so goes thru hide easily
- not all of Sagiyos workers come in every day
from the 7 are three who come in whenever they want to (semaunya)
best season summer, esp Aug., + slowest Jan-Mar.
- Sagiyo to France in 1977 for 4 1/2 months - got a recommendation from France Embassy, Jakarta - arrived in late Jan. but didn't feel cold - said had problems giving demonstrations because hide became stiff in the cold
- went to Japan for Expo 1970 for 8 months
- re history of Gendeng, ker began in 1930 - 1st pengrajin Pak

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Pujo (see [strike through] notes from last year), also called Atmo
- Pujo studied with a kraton mastercraftsman [crossed out] named Prayitowiguno, alias Pak Bundu 
- after returning to Gendeng many younger boys became his students
- Sagiyo has apprenticed with father, then Pujo, + lastly to Bundu (latter now dead)
- at age six Sagiyo already belajai [[?]] menatah + by 12
- could already do it
[crossed out] was really good by 16 after 10 years of study
- now Sagiyo only menyungging + draws outlines - says must do the face especially himself so will "hidup"- Sagiyo also pasang all the tangkai himself 
-peng paid per piece
a. ukuran sedang talahnya halus 1000-1500 Rp
b. besan & halus 5000 Rp
c. Raksasa halus 3000-4000 Rp
for [crossed out] b. takes a good tukang talah 10 days
-for Raksasa less because larger

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