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18 - Sagiyo has had bad experiences selling to Chinese & also once at Ambarukmo because his goods just considered on same level as factory products & they want to buy cheaply & don't care about quality - he says this hurts his feelings("dibikin sakit hate") & he doesn't want to work thru these people again - once lost 40,000 Rp because setor to Pak Mul & Pal Mul didn't want to pay & he was embarrassed to keep going back to ask him for his money - took the loss himself & paid full wages out of own pocket to pengrajin ("biar saya rugi") - has a plan to expand by collecting a no. of the letters pengs. in Gendeng so he can build up stocks - in 74 borrowed 100,000 Rp from brank in 77,200,000 Rp - both loans als. repaid money used for new materials -father has 2400m^2 sawah, (tegal ?)2000m^2 19 Sagiyo has 1500m^2 bought in 75 - also has 800M^2 sawah tadah hujan + sawah 600 m^2 jang irrigasi, both pieces bought in 76 in irrig sawah rice planted twice a year irrig. from nearby small steam [[stream]] tadah hujan planted once a year rice Sagiyo never goes to fields himself & father takes care of all - Sagiyo doesn't know much about agr. & so couldn't answer all of our questions in this section for luku in Gendeng 1000 Rpa morning w/ dapi & labor for watun 300 per hari rest done by gotong royong with payment 100 Rp per day & meals ((in D.I.Y. gotong royong doesn't seem to mean w/ out payment, but means low payment & meals -for panen use 1/10 bawon share -most buruh tanis from Gendeng -in Kas. - Gendeng area pekarangan means all land around house no matter how luas