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BL 23 Formerly they did cutting at UPT + they made more profit but they the pungawa 'claimed' + lowered price take as 2nd nasabah 2 more than 10 yrs listed as industri exploitasi ? 5 pungawa besar average 3 kodi a wk. only hidden interest 450 'pinjam' from pungawa 400 kortan 12 1/2%?