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[left page] -cooperative often doesnt melt target & they have to buy more -toko also sells american & Koptim often gives small -[[strikethrough]] al [[/strikethrough]] cheaper at Toko but they have savings at Coop (no interest on savings) difference 25 RP savings probably about 75% from KOPTI now 3 ikat (bongkok) kayu bakar @ [[strikethrough]] 1000 [[/strikethrough]] 700 a day; use Ragi from plastic bag called Ragi Tempe Cap Bung made in Pekalongan 100 Rp a pack, used 1/2 he used to ead of Village Keamanan Security but fired 1965 because accused of PKI but not punished now suffering 'sesek' (lung cancer or TB) also uses daun pesang - 20 lempit (lupat) @ Rp 25 bamboo used over & over for 3 years [[strikethrough]] undra [[/strikethrough]] 1 bamboo 1500 & can make several bumbung himself? can't use ragi if add. garam or spices - ragi dies 2 large non pots (bekas drum oil) buy drum for 5000 & take to bekel las which makes 2 pots for 2000 labor has 300 [[strikethrough]] dru [[/strikethrough]] bumbung