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{SPEAKER name="James Baldwin"}
I don't know if I can make this clear.

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But I was born in a church and spent most of my life, being dragged, like a dishrag through various pulpits.

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and singing in frnt of areas, church audiences because my father liked that kind of thing.

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And I left when I was 17 and, uhm, I haven't been back to church since.

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But, as I got older and I began to,

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to deal with my own life in a way which I couldn't ? as a child or as an adolescent.

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I began to try to find out, as everybody does have to at some point, find out,

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who he is, and what he wants and where he really comes from

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and what really nourishes him, what really ? him

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how he was put together and now that he is put together this way

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what is he going to do with it

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Then I began to realize that,

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in all those years,

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that I spent cursing out the organist and pianist and wishing to God the minister would stop talking.

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All those terrible Sundays, taught me something which I could not have learned in any other way,

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And what it taught me is almost impossible to say,

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but, heard it, just a few minutes ago and you did too.

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When these people, when these children are singing

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When I say children or I say kids, by the way, I don't mean it patronizingly,at all

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I mean, I'm just a little older than you, that's all.

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Now, it occurs to me that there's something in this which is, of great value, to this entire country.

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For me, it's something of a miracle and I think I can use that word.

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That the songs which we created in privacy, and in anguish and in darkness.

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by black, pagans, captive on these shores.

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The music they evolved, created.

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Who sustain themselves in the most terrible, terrible oppression that has ever been,

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that have ever happened, in any case, in the Western world.

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That these songs have somehow come down

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all these bloodstained ages and now metaphosed, metaphosed

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become, changed into a vehicle, to liberate,

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not only, the Negro of this country, but all the people in






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