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{SPEAKER name="James Baldwin"}
The question is in essence whether or not we should give up Christianity, whether Black people in this country should give up Christianity.

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I think that's fair, isn't it? That's the essence of the question.

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{audience member 1}
Will you make some assumptions [[inaudible]]

{SPEAKER name="James Baldwin"}
I beg your pardon.

{audience member 1}
Will you make some assumptions first. [[laughter]]

{SPEAKER name="James Baldwin"}
Let me try simply to answer what you take to be his question.

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His assumptions, well I was going to address myself to one assumption which I think is false.

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You will see soon through example.

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That the reason Negros, or the way Negros became Christians was because their masters taught them Christianity.

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But is that what happened?

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They became Christians in as far as they did, and by the way, the word,

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you know on a scale of several definitions, when they practiced the Christian religion by making it their own.

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They took it over and the songs we were talking about earlier, come out of that experience.

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It's not a question of giving up therefore Christianity and certainly, one couldn't give it up just because white people are Christians.

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It's a question of whether or not being able ( -- ) This is our experience, it is all ( -- ) it's what brought us here

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and it is only this which carries further than this.

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It is not a matter of the Christian religion, it is a matter of something which we have done with it

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and it one of the technics of our survival.

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And I think that we can carry it much further,

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I don't, I don't associate with Christian religion.

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I associate it with something else. I associate it with the auction [[??]] and I'm not concerned with the Pope, at all.

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I don't care what white Christians do ether, that's their problem. I really don't care.

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But I do, care, that we,

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we, Black Americans, in moving into the future, do not deny our past, that's what I [[inaudible]]

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[[clapping]]

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{audience member 2}
Mr. Baldwin, in a number of ways

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