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344     HELICOPTER AIR SERVICE PROGRAM

world, I think we should shop around and know what all the systems are and then determine maybe to license them and build them here.

Mr. HALABY. I agree with that completely. We are doing that on the all-weather landing system. We are doing it here. We have spent over a half-million dollars evaluating it. We have authorized New York Airways to use it, where it is already installed, where it is working and serves the double marine-aviation purpose. It is being used. They may use it for IFR.

They also have a standard ICAO-U.S. designed and built VORDME system.

Senator MONRONEY. I understand nobody could use it, nobody did use it, nobody is using it anywhere else in the country.

Mr. HALBY. Decca, you mean?

Senator MONRONEY. No. I am talking about--

Mr. HALBY. That is right, with regard to Decca.

Senator MONRONEY. Nobody is using your VOR/DME?

Mr. HALBY. No, sir. We have authorized Los Angeles Airways to use the VOR/DME system as of last Friday. That is what all helicopters are using at the present time.

Senator MONRONEY. California doesn't need very much in the way of blind landings, except for the small one. They can get through.

I don't want to monopolize the conversation, as interesting as the dialog might be.
 
Senator Brewster?

Senator BREWSTER. I have no questions.

Senator MONRONEY. Thank you very much for your participation and attendance.

Senator Morton?

Senator MORTON. I am sorry I haven't been at these hearings. I unfortunately find extracurricula [[extracurricular]] activities require considerable time, which is my avocation; that is politics. I have been in leadership meetings of the Republican Party in very small rooms, I might say. The purpose of it is to expand the room, so that we can get more people there.

I am interested in this problem and I want to express to you, Mr. Chairman, my thanks for having this hearing and my support in hoping that we accomplish our mission in this area.

Senator MONRONEY. I deeply appreciate the Senator's interest which has always been most keen in aviation, in all matters of new breakthroughs. I certainly feel, as we try to make a fast breakthrough in the utilization of the shore planes that can bring a blessing to aviation right to the city block.

I hope with cooperation, which I am sure the Administrator wishes to give, we will have a breakthrough on both the slow and fast spectrums of aviation.

Mr. HALABY. May I make a 30-second summary?

Senator MONRONEY. Yes.

Mr. HALABY. I think these hearings are very useful. They have ventilated and revealed all the various factors and interests. I think the Chairman was quite right in pointing out that devices such as you see here, maybe that will be the first fully mobile lounge in history because it will permit taking a lounge from the city center to the planeside.