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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
...to use the same kind of tactics to achieve independent sovereignty, not reservation status or special developments. Real genuine sovereignty the same kind the Mayans are [?] from Guatamala?

{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
Well I think they will have to gain that sovereignty in Guatemala first before they could be able to teach that here. I think that everyone has, everyone amongst the native population, has something to teach the other about that.

There is another question here. Yeah.

{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
What is the feeling toward the United States by the Mayans that are being [?]

{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
We already have the support of the Mohawk nation, tribes [?], including other Indian [?], [?], it is hard to answer that because the Indians, we left Guatemala feeling that the direct enemy of the Indians is [?]. We call them Cavelas unfortunately because Cavelas was one of our Indian chiefs a long time ago. And we of course, we are trying to develop why the army is killing the Indians. And we know where this power is coming. So we are in that process. Of course the people in the mountains know now because they have continuous education. What is our real situation in Guatamala.

{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
Let me add one thing that a refugee told me in Chiapas. I asked him after I had interviewed him if there was anything that if he could speak English and could talk with Americans here what he would say and what I could say for him since he was shivering with [fever] in a hospital in Chiapas. And he said to me very clearly he said "we very much like the American people we have always admired them. But we think they don't understand quite clearly whats going on down here. They think by sending aid to our government that they're going to help us but in fact it has not been so. And so we would say to them to please tell the people who are sending the aid to not send it because they are sending it to people who want to take our land away from us. That was his simple, and I think quite to the point eloquent message that he made.

You had a question then i'll get to you.