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Transcription: [01:32:44]

{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
"One more question, and then we'll close out."

[01:32:47]
{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}

"I did a study collecting a list of programs, post narrative programs throughout the United States. I was amazed to find that there were several hundred that I was able to collect. And I found out that most of those appear under the time brokerage arrangement. That the programs are directed and produced and directed by a private individual who goes to the radio station, buys a block of time and then he resells that time to advertisers and he plays his records or has his live music or whatever. And that is a very common pattern that the radio stations are willing to sell the block of time; this relates to your power element.

[01:33:38]
And what happens in some communities is that these program directors or producers of these programs shift around frequently, every year or two to the radio station that will give them the best rates, you see, for the time that they buy. So they are often very stable in conducting these programs year after year but then the people have to search on the dial by these programs. So that, I just wanted to make a comment on that. And I did read some on this and it seems that this time brokerage, time broker arrangement was the most common pattern of uh financing uh and you know the radio programs, ethnic radio programs in general, not just ones that are represented here.

[01:34:30]
{SPEAKER name="Speaker 3"}
"You're absolutely right, that's exactly the way it is with all the European ethnic programs that I've uh come in contact with in in uh the East coast of America. Every single one of them works in that way. Except the ones in National Public Radio and in non-profit college stations and they're totally different."

[01:34:45]
{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
"With that we'd like to go ahead and close the workshop. We appreciate uh you all for being a good audience certainly and a very attentive audience. And we'd like to ask for a big hand for Mr. Cohen[[?]], Dewey[[?]] Balfa[[?]], Sam Macrerie, Nick Malone[[?]], Nick Spitzer[[?]] and myself.

[01:35:06]
{SPEAKER name="Speaker 4"}
"Glenn Hensen[[?]]"