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{SPEAKER name="Esther Chow (Interviewee)"}
That was around '97 the far that you mention and '97--7--okay, that's when we saw, we had meetings, frequent meeting, monthly meeting, about how to organise a group, how to promote the Asian or Chinese-American issues in projects and programs and, and, events. So, uh, I think by 90s--I am more conscious about going beyond just Chinese-American and not only Asian, I'm also aware of sisters who are African-Americans, so a group of us, um, from the, um--organised a counter meeting--[[laughter]] I say counter meeting, actually we may not be a counter--a meeting of women colour--conference at Howard University in 1977 and, and it was a eye open experience, you see so many, uh, sisters in, in--in the struggle, so, uh, or brothers too, there are few mens and so don't, I don't want to miss out, the, the men who support us--my husband support me because I was very active at that time and spent considerable amount of time working with different groups. So, uh, I think that was the major event that I did with other women of colour and somehow they said--one person will go organize a group call, National Institute of Women of Colour, which all this organisation I mention now no longer exists. If you go to find it, it's not there. I, at the second meeting I was given an award by the National Institute of Women of Colour [[coughs]] so I, I think that I've thought--Doesn't mean I'm anything more than just a Chinese group because I really do, do place in the--the ethnic, at the context with other ethnic and minority groups beyond Chinese, so--

[00:52:36]

{SPEAKER name="Samir Meghelli, Ph.D. (Interviewer)"}

Um, were you, um, in contact with or organising with groups like the Third World Women's Alliance or the Combahee River Collective or, um, who, who were the people that helped organize the 1977 conference at Howard?

{SPEAKER name="Esther Chow (Interviewee)"}
[[coughs]]

{SPEAKER name="Samir Meghelli, Ph.D. (Interviewer)"}
Do you happen to remember any of the--

[00:52:56]
Oh, no, I--I don't recall-recollect, recollection of that--I may have things lying around in the, in, inside the boxes but my basement was flooded twice, so, I...I place all the boxes everywhere in the house and I couldn't even find my wedding picture. My photo albums of our wedding. So I have no idea where, where I put my thing. But eventually it may come out. I have no idea. But I think I have the documents, of the those documents, of documents about it and I join-- I did not join the... I was active in Maui with the Chinese and Asian-American group doing all that I can and then I wrote an article, eventually in mid-80 about where all the Asian-American women have gone and because I was kinda disappointed that it didn't go far enough and...