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procedure for the All-Pueblo Council would be started. That is, we would call together the Governors of all the Pueblos and the delegates of the All-Pueblo Council to at least three and possibly four meetings during the calendar year. During these meetings we would present problems facing the Indian people and receive expressions from them. The first meeting was held in February of last year. We pointed out to the Pueblo representatives that we felt the purpose of such a meeting was to hear the Indian people speak; that this expression would be the voice of the Indian people. This gave us an opportunity of meeting collectively with the representatives of the nineteen Pueblos. In addition, to this type of meeting, the All-Pueblo Council, under the very capable leadership of Abel Paisano and John Rainer, organized Indian committees on irrigation, land, sanitation, and education. The purpose of these committees was to meet with the Agency officials in these fields and to work jointly on problems that arose. In other words, what was being done was the development of Indian committees paralleling the Agency organization. Let me give you an illustration. The Indian irrigation committee, chairmaned [[chairmanned]] by Manuel Gonzales of Santa Ana, is an excellent illustration of this development. Shortly after its formation the problem of water shortage became very acute. There was a drouth. Indian prior rights did not mean too much. We had to battle with the Conservancy District and other officials for water and the Indians still did not get water. The Indian irrigation committee met with Indian Service officials, District officials, and the Irrigation Attorney, Mr. Humpherys. A discussion of water rights was held; the problem very thoroughly studied and everything that could be done was done by the Indians for the Indians. At the next All-Pueblo Council meeting, all irrigation problems raised by the Indian delegates were presented to this Indian committee and were discussed by this chairman with the Indian delegates.  It was not necessary for the Indian Service Irrigation Engineer to discuss these problems. Manuel Gonzales did the job. In the interim between the regularly scheduled All-Pueblo Council meetings, Manuel Gonzales confers very often with the Indian Service Irrigation Engineer. While the Indian Service was reviewing the Middle Rio Grande report prepared by the Bureau of Reclamation, Manuel Gonzales was conferring frequently with the Indian Service Irrigation Engineer. He arranged with the Chairman of the All-Pueblo Council arranged a meeting with the Bureau of Reclamation officials. We have here an illustration of how the Indian representative can handle work that previously was done solely by the Indian Service without Indian participation. This is just the beginning. There are great hopes for it. Some day we will have a stronger Council or Congress representing the Indian people in all phases of Indian administration. 

Before discussing the coordination of this Indian machinery with that of the Agency, I would like briefly to give you another illustration of Indian participation. During the recent visit of the Honorable Ben Jensen and his sub-committee in the Indian country, we had the opportunity of spending one day with them. It was suggested the Indian