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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
by accident also, I mean, we now have locations where we rent out from the landlord and then we just, you know, rent these spaces out to our clients.
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[[inaudible question from audience]]
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
Yes. The tags, I mean your tag is sort of like your signature, it identifies-- Oh, TATS Cru or a tag?

[[inaudible response]]

{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
Oh, TATS Cru!
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
TATS Cru is a group of young band -- No. TATS Cru started -- You know, it stands for Top Artistic Talents, and pretty much, you know, we,
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"},
from a young age, decided that we wanted to be the best in graffiti. I mean, our whole goal was to motivate each other, you know.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
You know, some of the artists that paint with us are known throughout the world. I mean they're pretty famous! I mean in term in the graffiti world.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
I mean, it's a big movement, and, you know, basically, what we've been trying to do lately is, you know, we teach classes twice a month at our office, you know, in Hunts Point
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
there's a community center, and we teach classes to the younger kids cause when we were coming up, we had no where to go to express ourselves.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
So, in terms of having supplies, we would literally steal our supplies just to be able to draw, and we had no where to go, so we would do it in the street.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
But now what we try to do, we were in a position to teach these classes, so we decided to put together these classes and have the kids come to our location, you know, the supplies are free.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
We encourage them to express themselves. We don't try to impose our style of art on them. We pretty much let them feel who they are and sort of guide them in a sense, nurture them as artists,
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
and tell them what they're doing is not wrong, and just share our experiences as far as business with them. In terms, there are a lot of kids who are talented and go to art school.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
I mean, we have college students - graduates - who come to us and say, "Listen, I've been in school for like forever, and I got just graduated and I can't find a job,"
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
because while they've learned color techniques, and they've learned the history of art, they've never learned the business side of it, or how to support yourself through art,
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
and I think that just comes from dealing in business everyday, and that's something we learned the hard way.
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[[Audience Question]] Do you see this art form as male dominated?
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
No, no, actually, when we first started out --
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Transcription Notes:
At time stamps [00:23:45 - 00:23:48] there is a question being asked but the audio is muffled 7/30/21 8:10 am. The time stamps have been added 7/30/21 9:49 am. The question being asked for time stamp 23:45-23:48 is about the art being male dominated.