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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
Thousands and thousands. And artist, I mean, cause each tag is a different artist. I mean, the whole thing about graffiti is, the art form is based on letters,
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
and it's sort of evolved now to a world wide movement. So now it's no longer just a tag. Now you've got guys throughout Europe, you know, wherever in the world, you know, Mexico, China, Australia.
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{Audience speaker}
Cross Revs is?
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
Cross Revs is actually two people. It's not one person. And they're just two different writers. And actually, Rev started on subways. His original name was Revlon.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
He sort of shortened it to Revs, and Cross was his partner, and they just sort of plastered the city with stickers, roller paint,
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
and you know, it's pretty much the object. The name of the game is called "Fame" and whoever gets their name out there the most is, sort of like, looked up to as the most respected.
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{Audience speaker}
[[inaudible]]
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
I mean, yeah, we've pretty much crossed over from using spray paint. Since we run a company now, we've crossed over into using vinyl lettering.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
We work with vinyl lettering. We work with markers to do illustrations and stuff like that. But I think 90% of our work is done with aerosol.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
Yeah, but then again, there is another part of the business now where, if you look at graffiti from it's very origins, it's gone through an evolution and so even just the scrolling like she just described,
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
where it's just the writing of the name, that's where a lot of the kids that are writing now, that's how they start out, and so they develop a style and learn to do larger artwork.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
Um, Graph has gone through that evolution also, so now, you know, we're doing stuff that's digital. So there's about, like, 6 computers that we use and we do vinyl backdrops.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
We do banners that hang off the side of five story buildings, and you know, not all the stuff is painted any more so(--)
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
Yeah, you have a question?
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{Audience speaker}
I would like to point out that, I would think that we have a lot of streets that [[inaudible]]

{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
Right.
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{Audience speaker}
We have a lot of street kids that come in and say, "Damn, when I get older and I get --
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