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{SPEAKER name="Javier Leon"}
Good afternoon and thank you.

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{SPEAKER name="Javier Leon"}
Miguel also sees Roberto growing up, and Miguel is a little bit younger than Roberto. He says that even in his generation, that was still an issue. He still didn't have any access or no knowledge of history about Afro-Peruvian- the role of Afro-Peruvians in Peruvian history

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{SPEAKER name="Javier Leon"}
and that, he's saying that fortunately now, there is kind of a larger movement of younger people who are very conscious of this being a gaping hole in how Peru kind of views itself and represents itself in school curriculum and other ways

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{SPEAKER name="Javier Leon"}
and that they're slowly kind of beginning to fight and strive for different kind of projects to kind of begin to kind of rectify that and bring more attention to the community and especially to--

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{SPEAKER name="Javier Leon"}
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{SPEAKER name="Javier Leon"}
Especially to bring more attention to the role that the Black people, in general, have had in the making of Peru and to what is contemporary Peruvian culture, and especially coastal culture where most of the Afro descended population is found in Peru.

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{SPEAKER name="Miguel"}
Bueno yo soy el numero doce de mis quinces hermanos. De la cual gracias, a mi padre Amador Ballumbrosio que ha mantenido una tradición ancestral. Yo creo que es la tradición que representa más al Perú en la vertientes, en el

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{SPEAKER name="Miguel"}
sentido de que nos consideramos no solamente Afroperuanos, nos consideramos afroandino. Que eso hasta hoy en día en el Perú se ignora porque vivimos en un país centralista de la cual los pueblos son olvidados.

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{SPEAKER name="Miguel"}
Yo soy del Carmen Chincha, al sur de Lima, 250 kilómetros.

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{SPEAKER name="Javier Leon"}
So I asked him to fill in, there was a little thing that we skipped over.

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{SPEAKER name="Javier Leon"}
So Miguel and his family come from Chinche in the south of Lima and he points out so he is the twelfth out of fifteen children from the patriarch Amador Ballumbrosio who sadly passed away.

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{SPEAKER name="Javier Leon"}
He had this long oral history as a musician and a poet and a man who did many many many things very well known. His family's very well known in Chincha in Carmen where they're originally from.

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{SPEAKER name="Javier Leon"}
And he is very conscious of how this heritage is one way of--that needs to brought--to be brought to light in order to kind of begin to combat that.

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{SPEAKER name="Javier Leon"}
One thing he likes to point out, too, is that people in Carmen don't see themselves exclusively as just being Afro-descendant or


Transcription Notes:
See [[?]] ^^^ I believe it's the name of his father. "Amador", maybe? Not sure about his last name.