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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
Yes. I'll repeat.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
It was gradual--
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
Okay--um--let me just repeat the question. The question was how did they make the transition from commercial--
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
what was called commercial art or graphic art and design to street art? And, um--
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 1"}
Was it challenging? How--how'd you do that?
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
I think I had been-- I felt like I had lost my soul when I was doing the other stuff, so in that way it was pretty easy to flip back over.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
D.C., as it is now-- you guys, those of you that have been here for a while-- it hasn't really been this rich in giving back to the type of art that we do. There haven't been this many opportunities, so--
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
Like, it's totally cool now. There's all these murals and all these restaurants, and it feels really nice, but it's completely new.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
So about the time when-- 2011, when I did my first commissioned mural, things were just starting to turn around into where they are now.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
So, um, it was really an opportunity presented by all the changes in the city that really helped usher in this sort of transition.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
So it was kind of outside of myself, as most things are, to just kind of get--um--shifted by--
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
shifted by the events that are happening around you. But it felt-- I was-- I--

{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
having come from that in the beginning, it was like going back home, you know?
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
And really getting to play with all these new tools--now there's all these spray cans that are like--
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
the nozzle, you just have to press it down just a little bit and you get this little skinny line-- like the tools have improved so much
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
that it was just fun to just open up this new world and really dive in.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
And, having all these great tools from being in a corporate environment, and having to sell things, and having to encapsulate, you know,
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
something huge into a tiny visual, or presentation, or experience, and having those--um
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
such important skills, I feel so, so lucky to be able to have those things to help me communicate and really effectively do whatever it is.
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
Even working for the Smithsonian it was like so overwhelming and so exciting, where it's like "oh, my God! what are we gonna do?"
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
and everything was pie in the sky, and we had all these ideas, and then, you know, we kinda whittled them down to a scope that was reasonable,
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{SPEAKER name="Speaker 2"}
but just having-- having
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