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And while we're moving, our point of view is changing. It's a new point of view, and from this point of view, you work. I work still from the same point of view as when I was a cubist, what you call. But only with different terms, which are enriched by life and by experience. That's why I say I am still a cubist.

STUDENT: I was wondering if you could be more specific about--what the point of view of the cubist was--what the philosophy was?

LIPCHITZ: Well, I can speak about that. But, for that, we would have to go a little bit further, further back....Now, when I was early student, at the Academy, Julian Academy, I had a professor by the name of Verlay. An academician, he was also in the Ecole den Besux Arts. And he was always telling me, "Jaquse, if you go away from nature, you are lost." So, I was going to museums, and I was looking different art, and I said to myself, "Nature didn't change, didn't change." Human beings for the last fifty thousand years which we have iconography of is just the same. The same art. A man is a man and a woman is a woman, a child is a child, it looks like--they look like they were looking fifty thousand years ago. Now if I look art, I look historic art, Egyptian art, Greek art, Medieval art, and if I shall obey to my professor, it would not change in the eras so different aspects of the same model, which is the human being--something which I couldn't understand--until one day I understood, right--it seems to that I understood--that art in reality, nature, is a kind of raw material to express ideas--a feeling, a teaching, a philosophy, and that's why the religions are--took art in order to help them to express their ideas. If you look, for example, a prehistoric