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communication at all between us. We didn't have many students - if we had twelve or fifteen we had a class. We never had a large enrollment. I would teach printmaking, painting, and design all in one room and at the same time because we did not have enough students in any one area to make a class.  And I also did art history.
I had an old car and all the guys would pile into the one car and we'd all go out to paint - the whole class. I didn't have to maintain any given number of students in a class in order to justify the class.

Q. In light of that, I would say that your achievement in Atlanta - with the great work that was done there and the subsequent success of your students as artists and as educators, - I would say that makes your achievement all the more remarkable. 
         
A. Well, they all worked very hard.