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INTERVIEW WITH LEO COSTELLI   2-2-2

Rauschenberg will occupy only the gallery, but I will show the young artists, whom I've shown in the gallery by the way, [[strikethrough]]and[[/strikethrough]] Krueger. But he'll have a show at the wharehouse.

And then after that at the wharehouse, there'll be perhaps again an experimental show of young painters. I had a very experimental show that Buck Morris organized, the one of the Anti-Form[[strikethrough]]at[[/strikethrough]], conception artists.

MRS.V.: In the seven people that you have on your staff...Ivan. What is Ivan's specific job? I know that he sells, and he seems to do a lot of radio and television PR work...

MR.C: Yes, PR work, it's not really PR work. [[strikethrough]]Actually[[/strikethrough]] it comes in very handy. [[strikethrough]]But[[/strikethrough]] he does it because we both feel that, even more then than we do now, that a big job mus be done promoting this new kind of art. Now it has really become unnecessary, so Ivan does that as a general course, you might say. Selling, he does, of course. He is especially good at The Middle West, of course, and that is his province. And he handles certain artists better than I do [[strikethrough]]that are new here.[[/strikethrough]] So there is a quite natural division of labour between me and him, in [[strikethrough]]the different[[/strikethrough]] all kinds of activities. What he doesn't do so much, unfortunately is the respnsibility for administration and finance, but he really follows it pretty closely vecause he intensifies hes activities, if he sees that we are short of money, that we really need funds. So he follows it in a general way, but the details, I attend to. Watching what the bookkeeper does, and so. I have the general direction of the thing, of course.

MRS.V.: The you have a new [[strikethrough]]New York young[[/strikethrough]]secretary and a bookkeeper.

MR.C.: Yes, my secretary who is more of an executive [[strikethrough]]than a secretary,[[/strikethrough]] in fact. She must indulge in much independent work, because there is so much to do in these galleries that I cannot really, most of the time, attempt to give long explanations, so the secretary must be my alter ego, practically. And has to know about everything that happens in the gallery. ANd she knows really more than anybody else, apart from myself, of the goings on, she is a little bit involved in the bookkeeping department becuase instructions have to come from where I am. So she is an executive secretary. Then there is Alvin whose functions are a little bit more indefinite [[strikethrough]]different[[/strikethrough]] but who chips

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