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school I want to , they used to have scholarships that were awarded to the public school students through the artists of Chicago with a lecture course. The best art students in every grade school and every high school were given a scholar-ship that would last for six or seven weeks. So you went on Saturdays and you listened to the lecturer... there was a lecturer whose name was George Burrough, who was one of the lecturers, and I forgot the other one's name. And then, the guy would lecture and he would give you an assignment... there would be an auditorium with about 500 or 600 kids in it and you would go home, do your assignment, and next Saturday you'd bring it in, turn it in. They would criticize it with written criticisms which were attached to your drawing the next time you return. And if it was a good drawing that they considered of good quality, they gave you honorable mention. And at the end of the term, if you had accumulated something like, say ten, honorable mentions, you were given a gold pen which was inscribed with H. M.. So that was a goal which all students would work for. They were trying to get those little gold pens.
...So I won these little scholarships consistently through grade school and through high school. But the other, I guess the other important thing that happened to me, at least in the terms of getting some kind of art education as well as

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