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29 [[strikethrough]] UM: Also let me tell you this. In Germany I haven't found any decent art journals, not even on the level on which we have them in New York It's pretty pathetic. And I think I might get you information.... but you probably have it already. LL: No, I;d be happy to have it. Frankly the reason I haven't.... I had this idea a year ago, and I tried to get Seth to do it with me because I have no business head atall. For one thing we found we couldn't work together, and for another thing his interests are something else and it's bad for us to get confused with the two relatively separate ideas of what should be done. But anything that anybody else does about this means that it's closer to being done because I'm not going to get out and do it. I've talked about it for a year now, but I haven't actually done anything [[strikethrough]] about it [[/strikethrough]] about it. UM: I wonder if you spoke to [[strikethrough]] Kaprow [[/strikethrough]]? Vostel LL: I met him a long time ago, and he isn't in the least well disposed towards me because he didn't like in the pop book, what I had about him. I'must say, I'm not veryinterested in his work. UM: He has done a lot of things and publications and the ...... are not very relevant, but in the happenings and in the thinking material he has come up with some very nice ideas. I happened to get this book when it came out at Wittenborn. But I [[strikethrough]] said [[/strikethrough]] suggested that because they are [[strikethrough]] too [[[/strikethrough]] two? of the connections in the journalistic field .... LL: Well, I [[strikethrough]] would [[/strikethrough]] didn't like Décollage when he was doing that ... UM: Don't worry, whatever was in the past, you know. May I see this card? ...... Well, I would like to know: do you see any relation, [[/strikethrough]] [[red "X" over the page]]