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[[strikethrough]] everybody ele's....that isn't coming across clearly...

UM: That's a much nicer definition of life-style than the motor cycle bit. Do you understand what I'm trying to say? Somebody like Baxter is obviously a life-style, art attitude. But you think of art and living it at the same time. And I think that's terribly important because there's a great deal of romanticising of the idea of life-style of anti-art, which is wrong, and quite reactionary to my mind. For example including the whole drug business, I mean, taking enough drugs, and getting very much high, and having the vision, and that is integrated;

LL: Well a lot of it...I don't know about the drug thing, and how much this has to do with art, it kind of has to do with everything now but the artist has traditionally given his art first place and almost nobody else in society can be said to live in a place like this, whih is very.......But artists by putting their art first then transform surroundings that they're in even though they look as though they couldn't be transformed. I don't think there's anyone else though who puts what they are doing completely ahead of everything else, which in turn transforms everything else into what they're doing. 

UM: Which brings me to another thing. I always felt that if this term anti-art makes any sense, there are so many which relate to it, like ofr example anti-form, the conceptual and also the political and the anti-establishment attitude which is very relevant to it. In other words the one thing to relate otreleaity I mean real reality, and other to the real art reality. But I think [[/strikethrough]]

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