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Transcription: {SPEAKER name="Unknown female"}
[Inaudible response]
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{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
No, I think Davidson did a lot of talking [audience laughs softly]. He always seemed to be out at the cafes talking with people and meeting with people and um, keeping up contacts that way.
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{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
Um, but, it's an interesting autobiography. Um, he, struggled and, um but he I think he was such a great personality that that that he really gave himself, he was quite a celebrity actually at the time.
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{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
Less less lasting celebrity than than Gertrude Stein. Interesting thing about Gertrude Stein of course is that her influence is I think arguably present today.
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{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
I mean it, it really was so enormous. On a fairly small circle initially um she was, she was really more a celebrity than a writer that everybody read.
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{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
But eventually I think she was, she was embraced by a lot of different factions, um feminists.
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{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
She became quite a, a lesbian icon for her man-ish clothes and her short hair and her open relationship with Alice.
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{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
Um, so I think she represented a lot of things to a lot of different people. Really a fascinating figure. Hard person to totally understand.
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{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
Bev, have you got any other thoughts having worked on this exhibition coming up.
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{SPEAKER name="Bev"}
[Inaudible response]

{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
Uh huh
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{SPEAKER name="Bev"}
There is another, um, sculptor who did her head in the same way as Jo Davidson would choose that [inaudible name]

{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
Mm-hmm.
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{SPEAKER name="Bev"}
And they had similar...
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{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
Which was also actually one of the, one of the pictures that was on uh Vanity Fair magazine, and then of course on the bottom was Picasso's famous mask-like portrait of 1906.
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{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
And that's how Picasso and Gertrude Stein became so close and so friendly was she had endless sittings for Picasso.
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{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
He couldn't quite figure out how to do his portrait of her and during these many sittings they would, would talk. She was a trained psychologist. She actually spent a couple of years in medical school um and had studied psychology.
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{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
So I think Picasso's ideas of Cubism were forming and she had very interesting thoughts from psychological background about the nature, about human nature and identity.
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{SPEAKER name="Wendy Wick Reaves"}
So I think they really, they really stimulated each other's thinking in that way. So you're right she loved sitting for, for artists and and really enjoyed that, that intersection.
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{SPEAKER name="Unknown male"}
She kept [?][inaudible due to volume from audience speaker]
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