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Adam-coach Rodney- worked for Ringling Matthew- harvard Matthew-original riding school- puona show- horse [[?]]- employs acrobats- rope wakers- touring minister - "Circus" was na genre, but the tent- circus became a destination What's next- Rodney circus sarasota landed perform swksays. But each and community out reach, -> (2) demographics shifting- 80s men of our acts were imports. now their home grown- Mr Feld established clown college- "I known they can fall down, but can they get up again?- American Italian of circus- switch to art & designer Adam 1st generation circus- "now a profession" carrier coach- new ihrention- Anthoney Gatto- worlds greatest juggler- retired at 44 now real estate uniquely American, other country 40-50 yr history & store sponsored circus schools- international coachs after Moscow & Beijing - we are playing catch up Matthew- Tran's national industry Zazel British cannonball act- change should mean more Am. Performers- Questions from audience ? elephants, lion, tigers, bears- animals & future? Rodney- Ringling 1984 animal question- from inside, questioning exotic animals- Actually domeniched- our reaction was very confused- uninformed, as the public discourse continued- Feld May 2016 removed elephants- ticket show down no animals in future- Matthew- historical- horses & managerie in cages on wagens- then trainers arrive circus has and can exist w/ out animals- na a fan- society made change, we follow Adam- advocate of circus- missing from discourse- by no specifics- -trainers are against animal abuse- PETA 13 million fine for libel- - is it moral to have animals perform? loss in then we were not educated ? [[?]] cities (Bolder CO) do you train or send to street performers- Adam- Bolder has 2 or 3 circus schools- Un of CO has circus schools- M.F.A- Tube self taught ?- mid level circus- Clyde Bedding Cole Brothers (Tent v.s. other venues) circus smercus midnight Rodney- FL to NY- defunct, Adam several single ring Bella small outfits- a lot of them are heritage circus- exit for yrs st Louis- *Folk tradition w/ little change offer then acts- we deed to shift our focus to them- Sm tented Sheds Adam- Universal- DC African American- Big Apple circus- bankrupt- no for profit ? other arts BFA, is circus moving that way? Matthew- circus models, Canada- physical- historical training Adam 2 or 3- prof (1) no degree programs- apprenticeship model (2) participation as part of college degree- FL & CO (3) Brand new- first state licensed "cirtadium" 3 yr degree granting program- no degree granting first class coming this year in Philly- why- dance & theater - logistic & facilities 10 others to 40 house sq footage w/ ceiling- great investment perhaps take over gymnastics space- ?- comparison Europe/ America - mere traditional circus in cities- facing to same problems *experimental mere in Europe- animals? Rodney- each country has own laws with animals [[Right margin]] France 4 circus schools w/ Govt money [[Right margin]]- in centers- different context [[right margin]] art form [[right margin]] supported by govt [[right margin]] no gypsy conotallium