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{SPEAKER name="Sonia Sanchez"}
that has wasted the almost entire earth with that greed. Whatever.

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We've got to deal in a veritable sense with that movement that keeps saying over and over again in as many ways I can say it,

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as beautiful as I can say it, and sometimes, as harshly as I can say it, also too.

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{SPEAKER name="Wanda Coleman"}
What do you think are some of the most important lessons to be learned from our experience in the Sixties?

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In the Civil Rights Movement? And the weighing of that movement?

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{SPEAKER name="Sonia Sanchez"}
Well, I think we've all done long analysis of the Sixties,

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and Seventies, and many of us have understood that

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almost from the very beginning there was infiltration in organizations.

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There were people put out there who were

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substitutes for you, um, for all of us, you know?

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People who looked like you and talked like you.

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They was real, what you find out from getting your papers in this country,

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is that they was real, that people, where other countries were at war with you.

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A lot of people didn't know that.

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They assumed that the country was not at war.

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But the country was actually at war, and was doing battle. Real battle. I mean,

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{SPEAKER name="Nancy Shiffrin"}
It's like a Civil War?

{SPEAKER name="Sonia Sanchez"}
CIA battle.

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I mean, all the way from infiltrators and people who would come and

{SPEAKER name="Nancy Shiffrin"}
Agent Provocateurs

{SPEAKER name="Sonia Sanchez"}
Agent Provocateurs

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all the way from banning people, whiteballing people,

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I mean, all the - you name it.

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Killing season. Real assassinations that happened.

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And the country's still at war.

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What happened to the liberation, the gay liberation movement in this country

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was AIDS, and that was on purpose.

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I mean that was literally dropped on, on people, you see.

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Um, and what we have is, is warfare

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from germ warfare, to all kinds of warfare going on,

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because legally, crazy people at the helm, at this particular point,

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and you know, how do you control people who got, have progressive ideas.

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I'm talking about particularly in cities, city councils, you know in San Francisco

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and talk about
{SPEAKER name="Nancy Shiffrin"}
I'm reminded of Tuskegee

{SPEAKER name="Sonia Sanchez"}
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

{SPEAKER name="Nancy Shiffrin"}
I'm reminded of Tuskegee.

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{SPEAKER name="Sonia Sanchez"}
That's right, you know.

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They discovered penicillin, and they did not, did not, did not

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