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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
Now down where the bank was, across from PA to New Jersey, now I could go down there any time that I had a vacation to go in the bank --

[[Cross Talk]]
{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Do you think --

{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
savings account in the Solvin bank.
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{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Do you think it was because there was drinking going on, on Beal Street?

{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
Well, the drinking and you know gambling and all that kind of stuff was going on. That-that was it.
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{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Did you see the same movies at the Idle Hour that were also playing at the Daisy?

{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
Oh yeah.
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{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Ah. So you didn't have to go to the Daisy?

{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
No. No, I didn't have to go there. This was just like shopping out here people to tell me, "oh uh, y'all have to go to Squabs to buy whatever -- I never bought anything in Squabs until I was grown!

{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Mm-hmm.
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
I didn't have to go there. Mr. Alvin would go to New York, and uh, first time I ever saw an imitation fur coat I guess I was about 12 or 13 years old.
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
And uh, the kids in New York were wearing imitation furs and they-they, he brought me a little coat back that was brown and it had a leather belt on it, and it was inner lined with cotton flannel, ya know, inner lining in there --

[[Cross Talk]]

{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Sounds nice.
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
-- to make it warm.

{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Sounds really warm.
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
Yeah, uh huh! And uh, he brought it back and said that's what the children were wearing and would I like to see Miss Bessie and my mama -- his daughter and my mama were near the same age.
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
So I got the oh-[[laughs]] whatever the children were wearing, he'd bring it back and he kept insisting we were working for the Bloomin' company cleaning cars. They would, he'd bring it back and if I said I wanted it I got it and they paid for it.

{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Mm-hmm.
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
He let them pay him whatever he charged them for it.

{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Did they ever show films in your church? Religious films? In the church?
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
Uhh. What kind of films?

{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Religious films.

{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
Oh yeah! Reverend Taylor did that. That's what I was wanting to tell ya, tell her, about him, uh, showing those films in the churches.
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{SPEAKER name="Louise Spence"}
No, this -- Reverend Taylor showing films in the churches is in the 19-- is later, it's in the 30s. But did you ever see films in your church before that?

{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
When you were a little girl or in high school?
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
Oh, when I was -- no. Uh uh.

{SPEAKER name="Louise Spence"}
Did you ever see films any place else besides the theater during that period?
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
Besides the Theater?

{SPEAKER name="Louise Spence"}
Mm-hmm.
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
No.

{SPEAKER name="Louise Spence"}
They didn't show them in school?

{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
No.
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{SPEAKER name="Louise Spence"}
Now tell us about Reverend Taylor. Um. The films that he showed, he was allowed to show, in your church? Or did you go to some other church to see them?

{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
No, he just showed them in different churches all over.
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{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Oh, he traveled?

{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
Uh huh. In fact, he would go to the National Baptist, the Black National Baptist Convention, before they split up in so many parts.
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
And, uh, he was the official photographer. He had pictures of the delegation and everybody going and coming, and he would show movies of backgrounds of different churches to the people that wouldn't be able to go to.

{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Mmhm.
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
And they would just give him whatever they wanted to give him for it. But other than that, that was it.
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
But, now that was part of the thing that the Center for Southern Folklore got changed to the back, I don't know somehow or another, he had a fire up there in that house and, uh, part of his equipment got burned
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
and the rest Mrs. Taylor sold it to the Center for Southern Folklore. Well, before they could get it all worked up and cleaned out and everything Ms. Taylor passed away
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
and, I don't know, here comes a guy with one of his illegitimate offsprings and, uh, wanted to take over. He went down there and told Judy that, uh, uh, he was managing Ms. Taylor's business and he wasn't no such thing 'cause Ms. Taylor left that house and whatever she had to a friend of hers that had lived next door to her.
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
She had remarried and now she was living around now on Golden Street. Ms. Taylor lived next to her cause the woman and her husband took care of her until she died.
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{SPEAKER name="Louise Spence"}
The-- Could you describe some of the films that you saw in the church?

{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
Well, [laughing] it has been so long ago, uh, I--

{SPEAKER name="Louise Spence"}
No?
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
I wouldn't want to try to accurately describe something, you know.

{SPEAKER name="Louise Spence"}
OK.
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
It has been that long. 'Cause, I have seen so much stuff since then, shit.

{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Could you tell us, in Reverend Taylor's films, did you see people that you knew?
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
Huh?

{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
When you saw Reverend Taylor's films, did you see people in the films that you knew?

{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
Oh yeah!
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{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
There were people from around the neighborhood?

{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
Yeah.

{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Uh huh.
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{SPEAKER name="Lula Adams"}
Yeah. And, uh, he had some still pictures of people that, uh, he had taken, uh, of founders like the Atkins across the street there. Uh.

{SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"}
Did you also, did he also show story films?

{SPEAKER name="Louise Spence"}
You don't remember?

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Transcription Notes:
Not sure what the bank name is in the beginning of the recording. Could not understand who/what was referenced in relation to "cleaning cars" after speaking about the coat prior to 02:15 timestamp ----could possibly not be a company. It almost sounded like she said "for the" again (i.e. for the, for the company cleanin' cars). There are 2 interviewers. I am identifying them as Pearl Bowser with the higher pitch and softer tone based on her other interview recordings, and assuming that Louise Spence is the other interviewer with a lower tone. Timestamps have been added. ---------- Reopened for Editing 2023-03-30 06:28:47 ---------- Reopened for Editing 2023-03-31 09:43:02 ---------- Reopened for Editing 2023-03-31 11:59:31