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MANN:  Of course not.  A man called John Seago was the collector, a very nice Englishman, very cultivated.  He and a young English assistant, his name was Reggie [Bloom] brought these white rhinos over.  We saw them and admired them, and Bill said, "Now we must think of some nice African names for them."  They began, "Well now, what was the nearest village to wherever you caught them," that sort of thing.  They talked about it for a while and then finally John Seago said, "Well, of course, actually we had named them Bill and Lucy."  Bill said, "Oh, you can't do that, they must have a proper African name."  So they talked about it for a while and then Seago said, "Well, actually when we landed in New York, the names Bill and Lucy were in big red letters on the crates and photographs appeared in the newspapers."  And so they were Bill and Lucy.

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