What is Deaf Folklore?: Carmel, Jones, Jan de Lap, Moore, Hathaway, Dietz (interpreter) JUL 03 1981
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Simon Carmel: Also welcome to our tent. Uh, the Folklore of the Deaf.
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Our workshop is entitled "What is Deaf Folklore?"
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We will discuss about social life in the deaf clubs and school life in residential schools.
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To begin with, to begin the interview I'd like to make an announcement.
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We have a demonstration of the TTY in the small tent right there, uh, after this program.
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There will be an American sign language course for everyone at 12:45. It's really fun learning sign language.
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We have another program called "through the listening horn," in the next area right over there.
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You can see the wooden back—background from right over here. It starts at one o'clock.
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If you have children, please send your children to that uh, tent area.
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The uh, performers will sign and speak at the same time, for everyone and especially for the deaf and hearing children.
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They will have a workshop after the play for the deaf and the hearing children and they'll exchange, the different uh, hearing or deaf games.
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Before we begin
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Simon Carmel: If you happen to have a friend who is deaf/blind, here or this weekend, please let us know. We will get an interpreter for deaf/blind.
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If you want to make time, if you will contact us, please call our staff member, Jo Radner. Phone number is 244-6367, again 244-6367.
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After our interview here, please feel free to ask questions to the participants.
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Let's begin, please introduce yourselves, your name, where you are from, the job that you are working at.
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One of the participants will be coming soon she is making a videotape. Yes, that's fine.
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Steve Jones: My name is Steve Jones, I'm originally from Baltimore, Maryland.
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I've lived in Washington for about 10 years and I work for the Washington Post as a printer
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and that's how I became involved with the deaf community. It was because about 100 printers at the Washington post are deaf.
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Jan De Lap/John Ennis (interpreter): My name is Jan De Lap and I'm originally from Wisconsin.
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I went to a deaf school there, the state school and I moved here in this area, oh, about 11 years ago
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to go to Gallaudet College and presently I am working at the Washington Post as a printer.
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Dick Moore/John Ennis (interpreter): My name is Dick Moore, my old hometown is in Kentucky, I've lived here the past ten years. I work
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Simon Carmel: In this country, we have more than 200 deaf clubs. All over.
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Now look, we like to know what it looks like in a deaf club, and they'll share that with you.
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I'd like to begin with, uh, Steve. Your first experience going in to a deaf club. Meeting deaf people.
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Steve Jones: As I said before, I first became involved with deaf people because I worked with so many of them. When I went to work at the newspaper, many nights, I worked night shift. Many nights I would be the only hearing person around.
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There would be deaf men working on both sides of me. In front of me and behind me. And since they couldn't learn to speak I learned to sign.
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As my sign language progressed my friends helped me a lot they were very patient, very understanding.
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In fact extremely patient when I remember how bad my signing was at the beginning.
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The first time I went to a deaf club with friends, what my first impression as a hearing person was the music.
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All deaf clubs have a jukebox and the volume is always turned up to maximum. Always.
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The floor vibrates, your fingertips vibrate, everything vibrates. This is so that hearing impaired people can share in the music.
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They, there are different degrees of hearing impairment, some people can hear fairly well. Some can't hear at all, some have, are from families that have been deaf for generations, and the jukeboxes are always turned up extremely loud.
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The other week I went to a party following a softball tournament at the Maryland Washington Asscia—association of the deaf, their deaf club. The band was very good.
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At one point we had to go outside because one man had locked his keys in his car, and we had to use a coat hanger to try to get his car door open. We were a block away and you could still hear the music.
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Fortunately the club's located on top of a truck rental agency so nobody complains. It's an industrial type area.
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I did hear one story from another friend of mine about the first time he took a hearing woman—he's a deaf man, the first time he took a hearing date to the deaf club
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Steve Jones: The noise, the music hurt her ears so much she had to go in the bathroom and put wet toilet paper in her ears. To block off the noise.
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That's really the first impression that a hearing person has when he goes in is really how noisy it is, and then of course between records it's completely silent.
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But the conversation never stops, because the music doesn't interfere with deaf communication, with sign communication.
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Simon Carmel: Jan?
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Jan De Lap/John Ennis (interpreter): From watching Steve talk, I would say, the loud music is a good equalizer for everyone, even hearing people.
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But I think that deaf people communicate better using signs and their eyes than hearing people. They're stuck trying to holler to, to be able to hear when there's a noise pollution.
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Alright, my experience with deaf clubs goes way back when I was very young. My mother is deaf, and often she would bring me to the club.
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There I'd talk with different kinds of deaf people, and I'd get a lot of different advices from them of course. Be a good girl, you have a nice dress on, and so forth.
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It's a common experience among deaf clubs that you have to climb the stairs. Usually a deaf club is on the second floor, maybe the first floor will be a commercial, uh, business or whatever.
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Some states have their own deaf club building. The deaf themselves earned the money and bought the building.
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and it takes a great deal of pride, they take a great deal of pride in their clubhouse. What it looks like inside, uh, seems to be very common all over in many clubs
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Jan DeLap/John Ennis (interpreter): Usually small very homey a lot of chairs, maybe a TV in in a corner, a bar, card tables.
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We love to sit around and play cards—Bridge, Poker, so forth, Hearts.
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We have movie films every Friday, with captions. A lot of deaf enjoy going to see that.
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How about you? Can you give your name, where you're from, and your address, I mean your job?
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Libby Hathaway/John Ennis (interpreter): Hello my name is Libby Hathaway I grew up in Baltimore, Maryland. Presently I am living in the Washington D. C. And I work for Studio 101.
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Jan De Lap/John Ennis (interpreter): Now tell us what was your first experience in a deaf club? what does it look like inside in the community, in the clubhouse?
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Libby Hathaway/John Ennis (interpreter): I'll share with you the first time I went in a deaf club was when I was 19 years old, even though my parents are deaf.
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Both of them are very active in the club. But when I first went in to the deaf club, it was very simple.
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Like she explained, small maybe a row of chairs, a little kitchen, a little bar.
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Very plain walls. Usually you find in every deaf club you will see pictures hanging on the walls from past presidents up to the present one.
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Other pictures may be bowling championships, softball champion teams and pictures and things like that.
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Decided to visit some different deaf clubs. Really they're the same all over.
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Meeting new friends maybe talking-where you're from, tell them where I'm from, my hometown, and they say "oh do you know this person
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Libby Hathaway/John Ennis (interpreter): We'll begin to share as if we knew that person for months and months, very warm.
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Dick Moore/John Ennis (interpreter): My first experience, well I can't really remember, because I went to the clubs from when I was a little kid. My parents are deaf.
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My deaf grandmother went to the club also.
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Really the deaf club, is the best center for deaf to get together and exchange the news, interesting things that have happened you want to know.
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Every state has a club. Really there's no problem for me to make new friends. How could I find some deaf friends in another state? Very easy. One easy way is to get to the deaf club and make and meet new friends.
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Simon Carmel: I'm curious, I'd like to know something. Suppose you go to another state, and you find a deaf club, in another state, you know, different from here in Maryland. How do you find it?
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Dick Moore/John Ennis (interpreter): We have a directory, the directory gives us a list of the different clubs all over the United States.
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Simon Carmel: What do you mean "it's in a book."?
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Dick Moore/John Ennis (interpreter): Yes.
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Simon Carmel: "In a deep book"? I mean is there any other publications like maybe the deaf american?
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Dick Moore/John Ennis (interpreter): Yes. You would find that there. We have several national publications for the deaf in the United States.
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People going to other states look up on the back of a magazine for example, there'll be a list of deaf clubs and they can go to another state and visit the club.
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Simon Carmel: Did you ever feel going to a deaf club did you feel like a stranger or what, can you explain about that?
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Dick Moore/John Ennis (interpreter): I always felt a very warm feeling there, easy to make new friends for example--
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Dick Moore/John Ennis (interpreter): They say what school did you come from? Uh-huh. Maybe they'd know a friend, maybe I would know a friend that came from their school.
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And I'd ask them if they knew. We'd begin to share information right of the bat, as if you'd known each other for months.
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Simon Carmel: Anything else you'd like to share with them?
Jan De Lap/John Ennis (interpreter): Well I was thinking about a deaf club having different groups that, uh, also there's religious groups, contacts in new towns, and it came to mind that since Dick and I are printers.
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We have really a large group, a number of printers who are deaf, and if you can't find a club, we would go to a major daily newspaper and can almost always find deaf people there that would be working there and they would be able to tell, tell us where the club was and how to get there. You know that's interesting.
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Steve Jones: I'd like to add something to that also, I noticed working at the newspaper in town here. Naturally people don't come to work until it's time to come to work.
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The deaf people always get there half an hour or an hour early to talk to the people on the other shifts and catch up on the latest news and the gossip.
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And it's a source of wonder to hearing people why they always come in an hour before they have a starting time and why they hang around after quitting time. It's a social event.
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Simon Carmel: Steve, I'd like to know about er your first experience when you went to a deaf club. Was it last weekend? Did you feel yourself as a stranger in the group of the deaf people?
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Steve Jones: No, not, not at all. I'd been there several times before.
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Every time I was introduced to a new person by a, by another deaf friend and the friend, for example Dick, would say this is Steve Jones he works at the Washington Post and he's hearing.
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The other person would usually look surprised that a hearing person would be in the club. Not that many hearing people go to deaf clubs.
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But they made me feel right at home, they're very friendly, very warm people
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Dick Moore/John Ennis (interpreter): I, I think that what helps is that he was willing to use our language, and for people who want to learn our language we welcome them.
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Simon Carmel: Sometimes hearing people never think of deaf people having like a T.V. in a deaf person's home or at their club, at the club house.
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Really many deaf clubs have televisions. So today we have a special item that we, a device that we can put on the television. Does someone want to explain what the T.V Decoder is?
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She's the best one to explain that.
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Jan De Lap/John Ennis (interpreter): Something just came up about two years ago. Where deaf people can by a special device called a decoder.
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Put that on top of the television it's got a special wire that hooks into the television. When you turn it on you can see some captioning going on, and deaf people of course can read and see what the program is and what it's about.
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Some people have what is called, built in, in the television. It's already built in, it's in one unit.
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It works on caption it has to take about 48 hours before you send it to the television. I think it's 48 hours before they actually put it on T.V.
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It's about, it takes about, we have about 20 hours a week. Now I think they're increasing it maybe to 26 hours a week. Yeah I think it's going up 26 hours a week of captioning.
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Special movies, special programs Barney and Mil—Barney Miller and some of the other ones, some with humor.
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Something funny about Barney and Miller. Before the Decoder was invented many deaf people were not interested in watching it.
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Many hearing people loved to watch it because it was so funny all the stories but to deaf people there was nothing until the invention of the decoder and then many deaf people love watching Barney Miller also
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Simon Carmel: Anything else you'd like to add?
Jan De Lap/John Ennis (interpreter): Yes I just thought of something else that just came up. Deaf people like to watch T.V.
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My mother had a color television and she enjoyed watching it, you know the soap operas. My mother was deaf and it was really something how she could know what was going on and how to follow it.
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Then she decided to sell that television. I told my mother, advertise it, put it in the newspaper, say a used T.V., sound system brand new. My mother had never turned the sound on. [[laughs]]
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Simon Carmel: That is a fact that many deaf people never do use the sound, at all. They can watch the television without the sound, and of course they can watch it with a decoder.
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Watching football games and so forth, deaf people have a lot of guess ability, guessing ability. They know what's going on with the story.
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It's time for us to discuss about school life.
Jan De Lap/John Ennis (interpreter): Schools again? I thought I was finished at school along time ago.
Simon Carmel: Well they would like to know what it looks like inside your schools.
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Can you, the three of you share with us by telling your experiences in the schools?
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Jan De Lap/John Ennis (interpreter): I came from a state school for the deaf, where was the school, I'm saying school, yes. You really, institution.
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Every state has at least one institution for the state for all the kids who are deaf in that state, will come and be centralized there. One place.
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Now speaking from the time of the 19 oh 45 to 1957, that's when I was in, in a residential school. Perhaps our experiences will be a little bit different. School, I guess we had about a hundred students
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Jan De Lap/John Ennis (interpreter): and equally split between boys and girls, we had separate dorms. We always marched in lines to a large, to a dining room where they had large tables and ten would be able to sit at each.
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The ratio of adults and small children, you know at ten tables are supposed to teach them table manners, so forth.
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We sleep in the dorms, young children would sleep in large rooms with perhaps twenty, twenty-five beds in the room. All lined up.
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As you got older and older we'd move into rooms maybe for four and then maybe in high school be rooms perhaps for two.
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Really it was weird to explain all these lifestyles in the school. We had house parents, and it was always add to me growing up. House parents for little deaf children usually were hearing people and usually were not skilled in signing.
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And I don't know why it's difficult sometimes, you know for the communication and in schools, we had hearing teachers for little children also and I think the emphasis was, that we were to learn to speak first,
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but ASL really spread throughout and among the kids. And we always used it.
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I think maybe I should pass it on. Let somebody else add to their experience. Let me say because the thee of us come from residential schools, even though they are different states, I think you'll see it's very similar our discussions a lot of commonality of the school experiences.
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Nowadays there's a lot of changes, but lets see what we'll be sharing.
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Libby Hathaway/John Ennis (interpreter): I was in, would stay at school during the weekdays and go home every weekend.
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The first year we hated to go, I hated to go to school because I'd be separated from my parents and live with these hearing house parents, communication, breakdown the barriers, but it was fun to play with the deaf kids.
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The big group of kids, at home town most of them would be hearing neighbors, and that would be a difference.
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After two years I really begin to love my school very much and I'd stay there, and I stayed there til I graduated, I'm very grateful to the house parents for training us in many ways. Like how to dress prop—
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Libby Hathaway/John Ennis (interpreter): beds very neat and clean. Suppose if er one student did not make their bed just right, neat and it was messed up the supervisor would come over and rip it up and you'd have to do it over. The pillow had to be just fluffed, just right, corners just right.
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We'd have to mop our bedrooms every morning before going to school.
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Like one day I thought I'm really bored of cleaning my room. So decided to tried to fool the house parent by just sweeping around the edges of the bed, not to get under it.
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And I told the supervisor I'm done, she said good and I walked, she walked to get her flash light and she looked under the bed and there was all these clumps of dust, it was obviously it dusty I hadn't don, I hadn't mopped it. I had to do the whole thing over.
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But it taught us good manners where we ate. Eat properly.
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Always be in a long formal lines. Little kids, big line to the big kids. Girls in one line, boys in the other, march to the dining room.
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And also march to school.
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When I grew up the rules begin to change a lot. Boys and girls could eat together, socialize, when we were young we were separated.
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Been other privileges change, we'd go to town during the week.
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We had nothing to do to go out, it maybe raining, stay in the dorm. Invent different kinds of games.
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We were never bored, we always kept ourselves quite busy and we had a lot of fun in school too. I went to The Maryland School for the Deaf.
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What kind of games did you use in school? For example, well they were really very, for example, uh, we played buzz, you'd have a circle and each one would start with a number 1, and go 2-3-4 you get to 5, you couldn't say 5 you had to say buzz.
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If you were careless and you got like to 10 you were out if you said 10 instead of buzz, and A-B-C stories we would do
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Libby Hathaway/John Ennis (interpreter): Play 20 questions. You know there was a lot, I can't recall them, all the games.
Simon Carmel: Okay, Dick.
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Dick Moore/John Ennis (interpreter): My deaf school I went to was in Kentucky. I went to school in 19, started 1956—
Simon Carmel: you started in 19—you graduated in 57—
Dick Moore/John Ennis (interpreter): Uh-huh, almost the same how about that. Graduated, let's see, in 68.
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Really the school was kind of like a military academy, trained us very strictly. They have a sports program like football, basketball, wrestling, baseball, track.
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Some schools had swimming but my school did not have that one. Now they have it there.
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Have, uh, vocational training, to teach us like printing, shoe making, tailoring, typing, many, and carpentry.
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I took several courses in the vocational program: shoe making, printing, car body.
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Really we had a fantastic, uh, fantastic memories of school.
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Jan De Lap/John Ennis (interpreter): Jan says remember, I remembered on the prom. I had, we had a prom every year and I remember my first prom date, and I got the most eligible boy on campus to be my date,
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gave me my first kiss, I have a nice memory. U-huh.
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Simon Carmel: I'd like to invite anyone, you know to participate who may have gone to a different school for the deaf. Perhaps some other experiences you would like to show. Perhaps you went to a day
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Simon Carmel: Lilly for example.
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Introduce your name and where your from. So forth and explain about your school life.
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Lilly Burke/John Ennis (interpreter): I'm Lilly Burke, live in Greenbelt, Maryland, work for the veterans administration. I grew up in New York City.
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I went to an oral school. Not a day school it was a residential school. A few years I was there, I slept there.
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But maybe after a couple years I wanted to be a day student. I wanted to go home back and forth everyday to school.
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The first year I remember when I was, came to school for the first time, I was really scared to sleep there and to be separated from home like the other ones have said, I had these awful feelings and tremendous struggle.
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My friends were so good to me, kept me company, taught me signs. I knew German sign language, I did not know English Sign Language.
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So as time went on the classes and all, actually it was kind of strange at the time, I had, you know the boys and girls were separated.
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The boys went to the New York school and the girls went to where my school was. It was called Lexington School, it was an oral school.
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And growing up was very awkward when I'd meet a boy. I'd get all excited to see the boys and going to the parties, the proms, things like that it was always very exciting but it felt very awkward.
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How to dress right and how to talk with the boys, it was a terrible feeling.
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Gradually they begin to combine the boys and girls in the same school, at that time it was separated because for vocational training reasons.
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Girls had better training, it's kind of silly nowadays but.
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Simon Carmel: Anything else you'd like to share about your experiences
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Lilly Burke/John Ennis (interpreter): Talking about vocational training, the boys printing. The girls were not allowed and I was always so curious about printing, I wanted to get into printing.
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Sometimes the teacher would give me the notes and I was supposed to give it to the printing teacher and I'd be so thrilled. I remember the printing teacher would say 'what's that, what's that, what's that', I was so curious.
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Same with thing with the carpentry I was so fascinated with the equipment but it wasn't allowed for girls to, we had to stay at home making sewing and how to cook and you know what we used to cook?
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Fudge, I always wanted to cook fudge. The teacher says okay just one time this week, no more okay.
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Oh it was so delicious and the boys would always line up girlfriends, you know. Give us, okay, okay, okay. We'll give you the fudge later, later give it to them.
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Lets see, dry pressing was another thing, laundry that the girls had. Darning, oh darning, socks.
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The knobs, we had the door knobs, put them in then and how to trim them. The darn back and forth and how to get it back into the weave.
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I hated that job. Ironing shirts, we leaned how to iron shirts.
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We would see what the name of the boy was, we thought, girlfriend you wanna iron it. 'Hey I got your boyfriend, you wanna iron it'. 'Yes, yes, yes. I'll take that one', and they iron their, iron their boyfriend's shirt.
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Simon Carmel: Oh that's good. It's time for us to stop this workshop thank you. Is there anyone here in the audience who has some questions they'd like to ask the participants?
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Anyone? [BACKGROUND NOISE]
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That's one of the best training that the deaf can get. And it's good salary, so forth.
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Jan De Lap/John Ennis (interpreter): You're forgetting something. Print news printing field is really, it's unionized and many deaf got into the union and they took care of us,
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as far as negotiation for salaries and so forth, I'm really grateful to my union for giving me 7 years of good job and equal pay and so forth
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Simon Carmel: You have some ideas about that don't you? Why deaf people are in printing.
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Steve Jones: It's a visually oriented job after your a journeyman printer, after you've finished your apprenticeship, at least the way it used to be.
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You could go to any newspaper in the country, practically and go to work there. The only things that varied from one paper to, to another one in another town were the locations of the equipment in the shop.
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So after a couple of days of giving you time to get used to where everything was, then the foreman would give you a competency test and that would determine if you could continue working there.
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But with, uh, with a hearing impaired person, if he knew the trade all he had to do was get the layout, get the material and he could put the ad together or the page together.
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He didn't have to ask a lot of questions. He didn't need a immediate supervision all the time.
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If you knew your trade you could just be given the material and left alone and do it.
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The same with typesetting, typesetting now they use, they do it a different way but it's basically the same thing.
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If you're a very good typist you could get into typesetting. All the new equipment and you don't need any close supervision. Just basically you're given the job and you've set it.
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Dick Moore/John Ennis (interpreter): I remember also printing was so open. Such an open field for the deaf because not many jobs opportunities at that time in the past.
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Not that many job opportunities. Office work we'd never heard of deaf people there. What deaf, what kind of future did you have and they always say well printing, you should get into printing and the unions came up at that time.
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Now more and more jobs are opening for the deaf people. Really deaf can do things like computer work and so forth, before it was really limited opportunities for the deaf in the past was printing.
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Simon Carmel: Like to emphasize also that we have many deaf people have their own jobs like, lawyers we have several deaf lawyers
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Simon Carmel: few Doctor's who are deaf. They're saying dentists, computer programmers, mathematicians, scientists. So on and so forth.
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Actors, she's saying actors. It's not just limited to printing.
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Preachers, yes we have preachers and priests who are deaf. Really you keep naming them, the list is very long.
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Er maybe have one or two more questions before we close here.
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{BACKGROUND NOISE}
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Libby Hathaway/John Ennis (interpreter): My mother is deaf so she already could sign, my father was hearing. He knew a little bit of signs, not very skilled and uh.
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I didn't have fluent communication with my father but he showed his love in many other ways. Took me fishing, we'd sit in silence and he'd say no, no, no, do it this way and he'd show me.
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Took me hunting. Father would sit and he'd listen and he'd blow on his quack horn, his whistle. He'd tell me yep, yeah here comes one now. And I'd look, look and where, where, and then I'd see the ducks all in a line coming over.
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Many other ways he showed his concern, he didn't have to know sign language to show his love.
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Simon Carmel: I'd like to share with you that all four here have deaf parents except for Jan. However I am the son hearing parents and communication with my parents was through speech but I felt it was somewhat limited with my parents until I grew up.
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As, I grew up as an oralist in an oral school in the Baltimore area.
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Then I went to Gallaudet College and learned sign language.
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I felt free to communicate with deaf people, or anyone who knows sign language.
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Simon Carmel: I don't, didn't feel a limitation as I did with my parents but in some ways I could communicate with my parents but not like I can with deaf or hearing people who know sign language.
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One more question did I see?
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[[inaudible question from audience]]
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Simon Carmel: I didn't get your question.
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[[inaudible question from audience]]
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Simon Carmel: It would be alright if you didn't have neighbors close by to complain. [[LAUGHTER]]
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You know, turn up your hearing aid.
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It has a volume control on the hearing aid, so you can turn that one up but not the television volume. My mother happened to be stone deaf so she never needed to turn the volume up.
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That's something else. Some deaf people don't understand words. If you use, you know, a high volume for example I have a powerful hearing aid but I don't understand the words but I hear all the sounds but I don't know what they all mean.
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I would like to have your help in thanking these participants here.
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[[CLAPPING]]
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Jan DeLap/John Ennis (interpreter): I'd like to add one sentence about the hearing aid.
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Like some schools force children to use hearing aids. Like forcing blind people to use glasses you know it's kind of the same idea.
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If you have some hearing fine use your hearing aid. But if you can't hear the speech at all then don't force them, like you wouldn't force blind people to use eye glasses.
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I got this idea from an old friend and I really agree with that as I grew up, they said you, you know. They gave me this quote.
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Libby Hathaway/John Ennis (interpreter): Libby says I have something to add to that, when I was a little girl I was always picking on my grandmother to buy me a hearing aid, I was 6 years old until maybe I was about 9
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and then I realized and recognized different kinds of sounds and then I couldn't stand to use if after a while because it gave me a headache every day.
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You could hear everything like combing your hair, putting the brush down, turning the water on the faucet.
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The drawers on the chest of drawers. I stopped using it. Months and months went by and principal decided to call me in the office and asked why aren't you using your hearing aid and I said because I can't stand to use it. It gives me a headache every day.
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Well you must use your hearing aid or I will send you to an oral school. So I said I'm sorry, I'm sorry. So I put it on my, after a year or so I ignored it and refused to use it, period, until today I still don't use a hearing aid.
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Libby Hathaway/John Ennis (interpreter): Said you could have turned the volume off add used it, ohh, but I get him in the ear or something.
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Simon Carmel: We gotta hold this, time's up. I'd like to make an announcement.
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Those who'd like to learn American Sign Language, there's going on in that small tent at 12:45.
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You can see different models of alarm clocks and show how the deaf people get up every morning to go to work.
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You see the different kinds of devices they used to have. We have another program in another area over here called The Listening— Through the Listening Horn.
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Good for deaf and hearing children. Where they uh, they'll use telecommunication there beginning to use, beginning to use sign language and talking at the same time.
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Any of you who know deaf-blind friends we'll provide interpreters for the deaf-blind this weekend.
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If so please contact our staff member named Jo Radner. She has a telephone number 244-6367. Again 244-6367.
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Let us know in advance, we'll provide that interpreter for deaf-blind tomorrow.
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Final announcement, we will have another program here in this tent called traditions, folklore for the deaf, of deaf theater. At 12 o'clock.
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{BACKGROUND TALKING}
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Oh yes thank you. {CLAPPING}
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Let me add one more?
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Please share with us by telling your deaf jokes, stories, personal experiences and things like that.
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go over to this, the end of the tent right over there, where were collecting, the collecting area.
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We have video tape equipment for our deaf visitors who can share with us
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Jo Radner: We'll begin right now, they call it deaf Kaleidoscope and you'll be seeing some traditional skits, of such are performed in deaf clubs, social clubs, parties, picnics and other events by the deaf community.
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I'd like to start things off just by introducing the leader of the troupe to you, and she'll present her group and her performance.
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Will you welcome Jan DeLap please. {CLAPPING}
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Jan DeLap/Charles Dietz (interpreter): Okay, welcome again. Before we begin I'd like to ask how many of you here are hearing? Put your hands up please.
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How many of you are deaf?
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How many of you are in between?
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Uh-huh, I'm just curious. Why you call yourself in between, are you hard of hearing?
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Your both, hard of hearing. Uh-huh. Some people are hard of hearing and they call themselves in between. Some people are interpreters and they consider themselves in between. It's interesting.
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How many of you hearing people here knows sign language or finger spelling? Put you hand up please.
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Pretty good number. Pretty good number. It makes me really happy to see that since the festival's begun more and more people are putting their hands up that they know signs or finger spelling.
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Finger spelling. What does finger spelling mean? It's these letters that you see here. The letters of the alphabet.
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Each one has it's own special hand shape A-B-C-D-E-F and so forth.
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If you haven't learned maybe you can try finger spelling your name using these cards up here. It's fun as a beginning, it gives you a taste of finger spelling.
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Signs, it doesn't mean a sign like a sign that's hanging on a wall but it means sign language, communication with the hands and using body language, facial expression and that's very important.
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Okay, I'll introduce you to my troupe
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[SILENCE]
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Jan DeLap/Charles Dietz (interpreter): I'd like to ask you, those of you who know us, are not eligible to play the games.
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Just keep quiet, keep a zipper on the mouth and don't let the other people know what's going to happen here.
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Now one of our members is hearing, can you look at us and guess which on is hearing? Who thinks he's hearing? Put your hand up. Is he hearing?
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Hearing, how 'bout her is she hearing?
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How 'bout him is her hearing? How 'bout me am I hearing?
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They're a pretty smart bunch here. Yeah he's the one, he's hearing.
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The point is that it's still difficult to pick out a deaf person in a crowd, it's very invisible.
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And, today for the show we're going to show you a lot of different skits that the deaf have done before. Performed in deaf clubs and we hope that you'll enjoy our theater events and we'll share them with you today.
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Okay, I think we'll start now with something called the bus stop and—
[SILENCE]
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Okay, I would imagine that a lot of you people who think that I think that you don't know sign language, we'll your wrong.
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You do know quote "sign language." Without realizing it. Probably you would call it more like gestures um, but it's not hard
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Jan DeLap/Charles Dietz (interpreter): We don't need an interpreter. Okay now we'll give you a short skit.
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A lot depends on body language here, okay?
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This is Dick Moore and he's going to be a deaf person waiting for a bus and let me also introduce you to these people before we begin.
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This is Libby Hathaway, and this is Steve Jones.
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Now he's be—there is a deaf and a hearing person at a bus stop and their waiting for the bus to come.
[SILENCE]
