00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:11.000 Pearl Bowser: Identify yourself. Identify yourself. Where you were born, and when. How old you are.
00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:24.000 Lula Adams: I am Lula Bell Adams. The daughter of Mose Adams and Kara Hayes, my mother's maiden name.
00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:30.000 Lula Adams: I didn't say when I was born.
00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:38.000 Lula Adams: April 25th, 1908
00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:45.000 Pearl Bowser: You were born here in-- ? Lula Adams: Yes, Memphis, Tennessee.
00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:48.000 Pearl Bowser: Were your parents also?
00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:53.000 Lula Adams: My mother and father both were born in Tennessee.
00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:56.000 Lula Adams: My mother came from Memphis,
00:00:56.000 --> 00:01:02.000 Lula Adams: in the rear of [[?]], what's north, what was north Main Street,
00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:12.000 Lula Adams: and at that time, property owned by a Memphis Bowman.
00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:20.000 Lula Adams: The house that she was born in, it was known as Memphis Bowman's Yard.
00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:27.000 Lula Adams: You told me-- And so, do I have to give the date of my mother's birth?
00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:30.000 Pearl Bowser: Sure, if you want to, sure.
00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:38.000 Lula Adams: Well, my mother was born June 5th; I'll track that back it's correct dates; 1890.
00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:42.000 Lula Adams: And the day of the week, it was Thursday.
00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:58.000 Lula Adams: My grandmother had pretty good situation, you see.
00:01:58.000 --> 00:01:55.000 Lula Adams: Her mother was born in safer times. In Macon, Georgia.
00:01:55.000 --> 00:02:00.000 Lula Adams: And whoever they belonged to let the house servants children
00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:07.000 Lula Adams: be taught by the teacher of the plantation owners.
00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:13.000 Lula Adams: She learn to read better than just about as well as I can read now.
00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:20.000 Lula Adams: She pointed to her and words that she didn't understand, she could separate them into syllables,
00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:24.000 Lula Adams: and as I got old enough, I could look it up in the dictionary,
00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:30.000 Lula Adams: and she would fix in her own words as to what it meant.
00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:35.000 Lula Adams: I have considered myself to be very fortunate
00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:42.000 Pearl Bowser: Right. Lula Adams: because not only did they wait until my grandfather passed
00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:45.000 Lula Adams: when my mother went for three months on.
00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:55.000 Lula Adams: [[Dry throat sound]] And my-- And she's the youngest; the last of the Hayes [[Laughing]] family children.
00:02:55.000 --> 00:03:03.000 Pearl Bowser: Hayes was your maiden name? Lula Adams: Huh? Pearl Bowser: Hayes was your maiden name? Louise Spence: [[Cross Talk]] His mother's name-- Lula Adams: No. My mother's maiden name was Hayes,
00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:12.000 Lula Adams: but she wasn't but 3 months old when her father passed.
00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:19.000 Lula Adams: So she didn't know anything about him and in later years.
00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:30.000 Lula Adams: We found out that he was born in Huntsville, Alabama, in that section.
00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:36.000 Lula Adams: And they were looking for the heirs of Van Hayes, which was his name.
00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:45.000 Lula Adams: And I was big enough to, you know, know about it because the government
00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:53.000 Lula Adams: was buying up the land that they were fixing to put the power plant in Huntsville.
00:03:53.000 --> 00:04:01.000 Lula Adams: So my grandmother didn't know anything about the family property or nothing, you know,
00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:09.000 Lula Adams: because for some reason he didn't want to be, didn't tell her about it.
00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:15.947 Pearl Bowser: Would you spell that last name for us, Hayes? Lula Adams: HAYES.
00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:21.000 Pearl Bowser: So you were close to your grandmother?
00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.000 Lula Adams: Huh? Pearl Bowser: You were close to your grandmother?
00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:29.000 Lula Adams: Oh yeah, I was 22 years old when she passed. [[Laughs]] Louise Spence: Oh, that's nice.
00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:34.000 Louise Spence: What did your grandmother do for a living?
00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:38.000 Lula Adams: She did laundry work.
00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:42.000 Lula Adams: She was a cook at one of the biggest boardin' houses, mid-cook
00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:45.000 Lula Adams: at one of the biggest boardin' houses
00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:51.000 Lula Adams: and while my mother was growing, her brother, older than her, was growing up.
00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:59.000 Lula Adams: She was, a cook at this place. She babysat at night for the Clary family,
00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:09.000 Lula Adams: and just did what she could and kept her children together because her husband asked her.
00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:21.000 Lula Adams: She told not to ever let his children go into any of his family's homes to live.
00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:27.000 Lula Adams: Don't let them take over. Now, what his reason for it I'll [[Laughs]] never know
00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:30.000 Lula Adams: cause I don't guess he ever told her.
00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:36.000 Lula Adams: But she fought the battle and they all four lived to be grown.
00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:48.000 Lula Adams: Before their son, the only son, was killed by getting mixed up with the wrong class of women.
00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:58.000 Pearl Bowser: So tell us a little bit about Memphis during this period that you're --
00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:01.000 Lula Adams: Of my life? Pearl Bowser: Growing up. Yeah.
00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:04.000 Lula Adams: I was born in the First Ward, as I told you,
00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:14.000 Lula Adams: the year that Memphis Health Department started registering births.
00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:19.000 Lula Adams: I'm registered in volume 1.
00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:23.000 Lula Adams: They don't have the date, but they have the month,
00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:30.000 Lula Adams: and Mrs. Annie Washington was the midwife for all that section, white and black.
00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:36.000 Lula Adams: Everybody was named Grandma Washington to her.
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Lula Adams: I was born next door to a Jewish family on the north side of 81st and Front Street,
00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:52.000 Lula Adams: and a black family on the south, I mean on the east side
00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:56.000 Lula Adams: because I was born at 346 North Front Street so
00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:04.000 Lula Adams: that's what the copy of my birth certificate shows.
00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:13.000 Lula Adams: I lived all of my life until I was near thirty.
00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:27.000 Lula Adams: Went from Main Street East Jackson in the front. Then, we moved in the rear of Concord,
00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:30.000 Lula Adams: which now is Parkway now but,
00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:32.000 Lula Adams: it was the Concord area,
00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:38.000 Pearl Bowser: and I became a member of the church at 2nd and Looney.
00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:40.000 Pearl Bowser: How old were you then?
00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:51.000 Lula Adams: Thirteen. I was thirteen on the 25th of April, and I was baptized on the first Sunday of May
00:07:51.000 --> 00:08:00.000 Lula Adams: of that same year and joined Pilgrim's Rest, at that time, Baptist Church.
00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:07.000 Lula Adams: And my grandmother had joined there when she came here from,
00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:15.000 Lula Adams: was brought here, from Georgia. Took up with her family. [[Chuckles]]
00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:20.000 Lula Adams: I was thinking back on how
00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:28.000 Lula Adams: she said that the people that visited Macon, Georgia described
00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:34.000 Lula Adams: coming to Tennessee as everybody up here.
00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:42.000 Lula Adams: Then they sold what they had down there which was-- I don't know how they came back-- but they sold it and
00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:47.000 Lula Adams: came to Tennessee, thinking that cotton would grow so tall that you had to,
00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:51.000 Lula Adams: you know, stand up and pick at it. [[Laughter]]
00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:57.000 Lula Adams: Oh, it was the funniest thing ever she would tell me. I said, "Momma, did they really believe that?"
00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:02.000 Lula Adams: She said, "Yeah!" She said yes.
00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:12.000 Lula Adams: and I guess it must've been what the history books called the carpetbaggers went through there telling them, you know. All of that stuff.
00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:20.000 Lula Adams: They hadn't been used to being around nobody 'cause, now, she often told me that
00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:29.000 Lula Adams: there were times when the war was going on. See, she was just 9 years old when the Civil War ended.
00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:40.000 Lula Adams: But she said that the lady of the house would take her to the fort at Atlanta, and she'd thread needles for them sewing,
00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:44.000 Lula Adams: for the Confederate soldiers.
00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:47.000 Lula Adams: And she always was afraid of going.
00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:52.000 Lula Adams: She didn't want nobody to have her going that she knew about in the house.
00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:59.000 Lula Adams: 'Course, after I got grown, the children people would, you know, they would, they would hid it from Momma.
00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:07.000 Lula Adams: My [[laughs]] Momma couldn't have any guns around, but she said that a slave would tell her, "Caroline,
00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:12.000 Lula Adams: we are not going to let anybody bother you.
00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:18.000 Lula Adams: You don't have to be worried about what's going on in there, it's safe to say".
00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:24.000 Lula Adams: Somebody, her family, she had uncles that
00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:34.000 Lula Adams: their owner hired out to folks for, to do carpentry work. He collected the money see but they did the work.
00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:44.000 Lula Adams: But, now nobody, wasn't supposed to bother him being the bounty hunters wasn't hunting for them as runaway slaves or nothing.
00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:53.000 Lula Adams: There has always been, divisions and sections and things. A lot of things that history books don't give them account.
00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:58.000 Lula Adams: It went on.
00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:03.000 Louise Spence: What, you wanna be more detailed about that?
00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:06.000 Lula Adams: Huh? Louise Spence: What the history book didn't tell that division.
00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:11.000 Lula Adams: Yeah! Cause some of 'em, they, I have heard people, they have told me.
00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:18.000 Lula Adams: I mean black people have told me, that they weren't allowed to sing or to pray
00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:24.000 Lula Adams: or nothing like that. Well now, we were carried to the church,
00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:27.000 Lula Adams: but we sat in a different section from the owners of it.
00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:39.000 Lula Adams: My father was, he's my grandfather, [[laughs]] not my father.
00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:50.000 Lula Adams: My grandfather, he turned out be a Methodist preacher 'cause that was the Methodist
00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:55.000 Lula Adams: system. That he could read the bible the way he was taught to read it.
00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.000 Lula Adams: by the people that owned.
00:11:57.000 --> 00:12:03.000 Lula Adams: But I've heard other colored people say that they didn't allow them to sing.
00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:05.000 Lula Adams: They had to turn the part down and
00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:18.000 Lula Adams: oh, let well, now, there have been sections of everybody just like there are right now. All white people weren't mean and nasty.
00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:24.000 Lula Adams: They just had to live with the customs of the time just like you having to do right now.
00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:30.000 Lula Adams: There are some colored people that have sense enough to know
00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:35.000 Lula Adams: That color of skin doesn't make a difference in the heart of a person.
00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:38.000 Lula Adams: 'Cause I had somethin happen to me
00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:43.000 Lula Adams: not too long ago by own of my own.
00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.000 Lula Adams: that really upset me.
00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:55.000 Lula Adams: You see, when his family, this person's ancestor
00:12:55.000 --> 00:13:02.000 Lula Adams: came here to Memphis from Alabama where he was born.
00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:07.000 Lula Adams: He opened, he started selling fuel, coal, and wood.
00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:17.000 Lula Adams: My mother was small, and he would go by when my grandmother would be at [[Wickertis Lord's?]] Boardin' house.
00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:27.000 Lula Adams: and see that they had fuel and leave it, and at the end of the week she would pay him.
00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:33.000 Lula Adams: All right. In later years, he and another man opened up an undertaker shop,
00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.000 Lula Adams: and my grandmother told me, said now
00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:41.000 Lula Adams: as long as, we all gonna die some day,
00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:47.000 Lula Adams: as long as they in business and treat you- treat y'all all right
00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:53.000 Lula Adams: I would rather that you use him when that time came
00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:56.000 Lula Adams: for an undertaker which was
00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:59.000 Lula Adams: a decent thing to do.
00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:04.000 Lula Adams: All right, that man, that particular man
00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:09.000 Lula Adams: had 6 sons, didn't but 2 of them want to be in that business.
00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:14.000 Lula Adams: But I have known, we've known each other all our lives.
00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:17.000 Lula Adams: Some were older than me, and
00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:27.000 Lula Adams: y'know like that, but-- and finally, about 3 or 4 years ago the last one passed.
00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:31.000 Lula Adams: That was, since my mother passed,
00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:37.000 Lula Adams: and one of the nephews
00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:44.215 Lula Adams: was an army officer. I knew the boy, the young man's father. and --
00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:51.000 Lula Adams: I'm just rambling on you can see that. [[Laughs]] Louise Spence: [[Laughs]] No, that's that's alright.
00:14:51.000 --> 00:15:00.000 Lula Adams: Uh huh. Um, I knew the young man's father and mother.
00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:06.000 Lula Adams: So, when he came here as retired Army officer,
00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:12.000 Lula Adams: after his uncle passed, I called him and asked him to come out here
00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:22.000 Lula Adams: so that I could tell him what I had since I don't have any close relatives, you know.
00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:28.000 Lula Adams: What I had, and asked him to give me an estimation
00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:37.000 Lula Adams: of how much more in these modern times that I would have to add to it, see?
00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:41.000 Lula Adams: I really knew I had to paid up insurance with Metropolitan Life Insurance Company,
00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:51.000 Lula Adams: and I had-- and I had received a letter from them idea how much it would be worth,
00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:58.000 Lula Adams: and I also knew that my mother had had a straight life insurance with Metropolitan. [[background noise]]
00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:05.000 Lula Adams: You know so, it done business with the family on thirty year endowment insurance, you see.
00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:11.000 Lula Adams: Ah, but anyway I asked this fellow to give me what--
00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:16.000 Lula Adams: what the modern day prices, what I would need.
00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:25.000 Lula Adams: Now, I let him know that I had a grave already paid for in the Calvary cemetary,
00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:30.000 Lula Adams: and the contract and everything for the grave.
00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:37.000 Lula Adams: And I told him the face value of the Metropolitan insurance and asked him
00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:44.000 Lula Adams: to give me an idea about how much, you know, I would need to add to it.
00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:48.000 Lula Adams: I don't think I did wrong.
00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:54.000 Louise Spence: That seems like a fair question. [[Laughter]] Lula Adams: I think so. Pearl Bowser: Most obvious question to ask. Lula Adams: Right.
00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:59.000 Lula Adams: But here was the thing that got me most upset with him.
00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:12.000 Lula Adams: I told him that Nat Landau was the executor of my will.
00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:19.000 Lula Adams: Now what I didn't tell him was that Nat's mother had left my mother more
00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:24.000 Lula Adams: than enough to pay for her hospitalization and all that kind of stuff, you know.
00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:34.000 Lula Adams: But I didn't just didn't spend it and waste it up cause you know I knew, I didn't know who was going to leave first,
00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:36.000 Lula Adams: And I wasn't goin' to waste up her money,
00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:44.000 Lula Adams: and not have sufficient thing when Miss Landau had left enough
00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.000 Lula Adams: to do-- for her, for her to do,
00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:50.000 Lula Adams: and nobody else ta do that.
00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:57.000 Lula Adams: But her mother and father had helped my mother to bring me up the way I was grown, see.
00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:59.000 Pearl Bowser: Um huh.
00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:06.000 Lula Adams: It'd been a family situation. And when Mamma got it so she would be awake.
00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:13.000 Lula Adams: Miss Landau would have-- Mrs. Alfred Landau would have somebody to come and pick her up.
00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:20.000 Lula Adams: Every morning. She paid them to take Mamma over there to the house
00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:25.000 Lula Adams: and set up there with her while somebody waited on both of them. [[Laughter]]
00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:28.000 Lula Adams: That happened. Louise Spence: That's nice. Yeah.
00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:32.000 Lula Adams: [[Speaking happily]] I didn't - Of course, I didn't explain all that to him.
00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:36.000 Lula Adams: I just asked him, you know, about my business.
00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:41.000 Lula Adams: Shit! He writes Nat a letter, Nat Landau a letter,
00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:49.000 Lula Adams: and Nat was so outdone, he sent me a copy. He said nothing [[Laughs]].
00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:55.000 Lula Adams: But he writes Nat a letter telling him how much insurance I had; like he didn't know.
00:18:55.000 --> 00:19:07.000 Lula Adams: [[Laughs]] And where I had a grave, and he had chipped her out, and 3 hundred dollars had--
00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:13.000 Lula Adams: Like I didn't sense enough to read the contract. Somebody had to pay for the opening and closing of the grave.
00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:16.000 Pearl Bowser: Hmm.
00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:24.000 Lula Adams: Ah huh. I don't know where to start. But at least they did send me to school, and I tried learning a little bit.
00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:30.000 Lula Adams: And I'm fortunate enough to have the lawyers on both sides of Nat's family
00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:39.000 Lula Adams: to explain anything that I need to know to -- Now wouldn't I be stupid to go do something,
00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:43.000 Lula Adams: not ask them, "Am I doing it right or wrong?"
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.000 Lula Adams: You know Valentino came on later.
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:13.000 Louise Spence: Was it-- [[Cross Talk]] SPEAKER name="Pearl Bowser"} Who was the athletic star? Louise Spence: [[Cross Talk]] Douglas Fairbanks. Lula Adams: [[Cross Talk]] That's what I was tryin' to think
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:16.000 Lula Adams: [[Cross Talk]] of his last-- Louise Spence: [[Cross Talk]] Douglas Fairbanks, Junior-- Senior.
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:18.000 Louise Spence: Douglas Fairbanks, Senior?
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:26.000 Lula Adams: Yeah, but in this picture he is shown with Anita somebody. [[Laughs]].
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:34.000 Pearl Bowser: Did you ever see westerns that were called, "Bullseye," or "Bullet"
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:40.000 Pearl Bowser: with Noble Johnson; an actor, Noble Johnson?
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.000 Lula Adams: No. Louise Spence: Was there music in the theater?
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:50.000 Lula Adams: Yes, with a player piano. [[Laughs]]
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:54.000 Lula Adams: Yeah. They had a lit piano back then.
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:59.000 Lula Adams: And the music was the kinda music they had out awhile.
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:03.000 Louise Spence: And did you go with your friends from the neighborhood?
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:14.000 Lula Adams: Oh, yeah! But I was always sittin' with the grown-ups
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:18.000 Lula Adams: I didn't sit with the children cause they's talking,
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:22.000 Lula Adams: cause I wanted to look and see, cause you had to read it.
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:31.000 Louise Spence: Was the audience really noisy at the Westerns? Lula Adams: Hum? Louise Spence: Was the audience really noisy at the Westerns?
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:35.000 Lula Adams: No, not where I sat. Pearl Bowser: [[Cross Talk]] They sat-- They sat quietly.
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:39.000 Lula Adams: [[Laughing]] The heck with you. No, cause the grown-ups were busy
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:43.000 Lula Adams: tryin' to get the sense of the thing, readin' on the screens,
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:47.000 Lula Adams: See, we didn't have no talkin', silent [[inaudible]]. Pearl Bowser: Um hum.
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:54.000 Lula Adams: You had to read it for yourself and try to fix it in your mind. Pearl Bowser: Um huh.
00:41:54.000 --> 00:42:00.000 Pearl Bowser: Was the theater large? Was the balcony and--
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:06.000 Lula Adams: [[inaudible]] [[Laughing]] It was just one floor,
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:13.000 Lula Adams: and there was low; it was slanted floor. Pearl Bowser: Um huh.
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:17.000 Pearl Bowser: And were there Blacks only in the the theater,
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:21.000 Pearl Bowser: or did Whites also attend that theater?
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:25.000 Lula Adams: Oh, ah. In that theater, in that section,
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:32.000 Lula Adams: it was mostly Black people that went in there.
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:37.000 Lula Adams: In later years, when they opened up the Orpheum,
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:49.000 Lula Adams: I went to the theater on Main Street, on the east side of Main Street.
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:56.000 Lula Adams: I didn't go over that but two pictures because you had to get your ticket and
00:42:56.000 --> 00:43:05.000 Lula Adams: go round in the attic, and go upstairs from the outside, and I didn't go there.
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:12.000 Lula Adams: But when they opened the Orpheum, well, and you could go in from Beale St.
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:16.000 Lula Adams: [[background noise]] and go, you know,
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:22.000 Lula Adams: around and go up in the upper part of the theater.
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:28.000 Lula Adams: When the first opened it, they had plays and movies,
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:35.000 Lula Adams: and that I attended regularly, but the only time I was on Beale St.,
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:39.000 Lula Adams: to the theater in that section,
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:44.000 Lula Adams: it was under the supervision of Lucille Rhine Wood.
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:49.000 Pearl Bowser: I'm sorry. Would you repeat that name? Lula Adams: Huh? Pearl Bowser: Could you repeat that name?
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:56.000 Lula Adams: Lucille Rhine R-H-I-N-E. Later she married Mr. Wood,
00:43:56.000 --> 00:44:02.000 Lula Adams: because at one time, teachers couldn't be married here in Memphis.
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:10.000 Lula Adams: They weren't any better when I was in Elementary School, you couldn't be married in Houston.
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:18.000 Lula Adams: Huh. Some wide changes have been made since I been --
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:22.000 Louise Spence: And you were saying that Lucille Rhine was; what was her position?
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:26.000 Lula Adams: Huh? Louise Spence: Lucille Rhine, you said that she was supervising what?
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:32.000 Lula Adams: She was a music teacher, and she went with that from her--
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:38.000 Lula Adams: Miss Lucille Washington was a relative of hers.
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:45.000 Lula Adams: She was a supervisor of Music at the [[?]] schools.
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:55.000 Lula Adams: And Lucille wound up to be a teacher at the high school and a supervisor.
00:44:55.000 --> 00:45:03.000 Lula Adams: But when she started off, she was just out of high school,
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:06.000 Lula Adams: and she would give little operettas,
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:13.000 Lula Adams: from curable stories, and they would stage them at
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:18.000 Lula Adams: the end of a term, at the Daisy Theater,
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:24.000 Lula Adams: and we could go to the Daisy
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:29.000 Lula Adams: under her supervision with teachers and things.
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:33.000 Pearl Bowser: And whenever we went down there,
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:38.000 Lula Adams: those people that were in that rough section,
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:42.000 Lula Adams: they wouldn't give those children any trouble like folks do now.
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:46.000 Louise Spence: But normally you wouldn't go to The Daisy because it was too rough?
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:51.000 Lula Adams: Ordinarily, because the people
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:55.000 Lula Adams: all around there, you know, [[?]],
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:56.000 Pearl Bowser: Beale Street, you're talking--
00:45:56.000 --> 00:46:00.000 Lula Adams: Uh huh. It was REALLY Beale Street! [[Laughs]]
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:05.000 Louise Spence: And this is something you decided yourself, or your mother and your uncle decided?
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:09.000 Lula Adams: My mother and her mother decided.
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:13.000 Lula Adams: My mother married George Greenlaw
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:18.520 Lula Adams: on January 21, 19 and 18 [].
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:30.000 Lula Adams: and Bud, he had known my Daddy, and not too many years older than Mamma.
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:33.000 Lula Adams: They grew up together in the same neighborhood. [[Laughs]]
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:38.000 Lula Adams: So I was fortunate when my mother did marry.
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:44.000 Lula Adams: That'd be 1919, cause when my mother did marry,
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:47.000 Lula Adams: I was-- would have been 11 years old,
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:56.000 Lula Adams: on the 25th of that April, and she married on January 21st, 1919.