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amid groves of old Eucalyptis, cypress, & pines.  There are said to be some good orange groves on the sides of the valley here, tho the middle is too frosty for them.

From Ramona I go east up a crooked gulch then up & up & up to a summit at 2500 feet, then down a little & through a park like valley, then over a ridge & down to Witch Creek at 2800 feet.  After leaving Ramona Valley it is Upper Sonoran chapperal all the way, with Adenostria fasciculata, Arcocarpus parvifolius, Hetteromeles arbutifolia, Sambucus glauca, Ceanothus divaricatus, and up near 2500 feet a few bushes of a large Arctostaphylos.  White sage & Artemisia californica run over the top of ridge.

At Witch Creek there is rarely any snow or ice, but the summer is cool & the zone is Upper Sonoran.  Still a few fig trees are  thrifty & bearing, so are english wallnuts, pears, peaches apricots, & apples.  A small pomegranite tree is full of flowers.  Grape vineyards are common but probably of hardy kinds.