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and how he sold the Buffalo and Canton "Flexomotives". About the time the Buffalo job was up, one of the Cleveland Republic men said to Marti, "You know, I'm a man 51 years old and I have two boys to put through college." Later he said, "Forget what I said. Your company is too big anyway." It seems almost certain that Kirtley's company wasn't "too big." We can't and won't do business that way but Kirtley can and does — note the recent job in Detroit. "Marti" is in a quandry as to just how to deal with this situation on the next order but he indicated that he was determined to do something about it. He didn't tell us the name of the Republic man involved—apparently it is nobody whom I know.

Marti took us to lunch at Pierre's an Italian place and I had some delicious spaghetti. Gerry finally ate a plate of soup but even then he still felt pretty rocky. My sore throat seemed to be improving as the day wore on. We spent the afternoon at the Corrigan—McKinney plant riding the locomotives there and visiting with Seibel. The locomotives are doing well except fuel consumption compares badly with Electro-Motive in the same plant. It was raining and miserable — dark, dirty and we got wet — no rubbers.

Seibel is a pleasant and shrewd individual — wild about trouble, so wild sometimes as to make you gasp almost. Gerry tells the story of Seibel sending a [[underline]] Czech [[/underline]] down to inspect the Plymouth hydraulic drive locomotive at Hamilton Seibel didn't like the locomotive and the Czech came back reporting it was no good — had a German engine and German drive! That was enough for him.