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degree is not in itself of any great interest, it explains quite a number of things connected with the whole rite. I have about 17 cylinders of records. They are of much value in that nearly all of the songs are rituals are quite different from those I already have, and I expect that is true of all the other various gentes. The man said that he left some of the songs out because he has forgotten them. He says that he has not sung the songs or thought of them for over ten years, but they, those he has, given, tell many interesting things of the whole rite. There is one thing that will make the work of transcribing comparatively easy, and that is the man had a clear voice and he repeated the words distinctly. Now, I am going to try to get the Bird Degree but I don't want to get it from this man. I want to try the man who belongs to Saucy Calf's gens. It looks as though he may be