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They are fairly frustrated by their inability to enforce anything - eg stop selling or trading of endangered species. They don't get inventories, once they deposit animals. Ivo will go to the ^[[new]] Brazilian Zoo Society meeting. [ We try to figure out ways to attend or be represented, but never can]. [Scheduled for March 16-20 in São Paulo]. Ivo can also learn about function of AAZPA & perhaps assist in recommend . to IUDZG, a few Brazilian reps. for membership. We need to look into the functioning of the Zoo Society and how interactions occur among zoos. [[circled]] 10 [[/circled]] We briefly refer to Rudy's course & the possibility for them to have biologists attend as Dionizio attended the FWS course. Lourdes takes us to hotel to check in & we have a quick [[end page]] [[start page]] 3 March 86 IBDF [[underlined]] Mond [[/underlined]] lunch. We return to office since we are scheduled to meet with the Pres. at 3PM. Before meeting with ^[[Jayme]] Santiago - Pres IBDF (meeting scheduled at 3 PM - had been organized by Ibsen) - we sat down with Raquel & Joesio to review what discussions we would have. It was clear that Joesio was planning to be present & to run the show. Jim brought up the problem of the reserve size & Joesio made the list. The meeting was late and short. The Pres. apologized since he was ducking out of a meeting with equivalent of Congresspeople. He was short, older, brief, and delegated mostly everything back to Joesio. He took no notes & had no asst. or secy with him. He agreed to look into the augmentation of the Reserve w/ the Minister and the Belgium GLTs would be organized thru State Dept (Ilamaraty).