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{SPEAKER name="Gordon Ekholm"}
...uh, in general, the the work at Tuxpan showed a close relationship to what was found at Tampeco and Panuco. And seems to indicate that the, its one of the basic Southern border of the Waztec area was approximately at the Rio Tuxpan.

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{SPEAKER name="Shirley Gorenstein"}
In 1946, you wrote two articles on the wheel, one with Caso, and one in American Antiquity. "Wheeled Toys in Mexico." What was the American Antiquity article?

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{SPEAKER name="Gordon Ekholm"}
Yes, this uh, this is a uh, the the uh, the question of the presence of the wheel in the New World came up very shortly after the work at Tampico Panuco. At approximately the same time as this work, starting with excavating at Tres Zapotes and found several wheeled animals - small clay animals with clay wheels on them. And shortly after I finished at Tamico or at Panuco, my workman there found a similar object with wheels a very, very short distance, distance from my own stratigraphic excavation.

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{SPEAKER name="Gordon Ekholm"}
Uh, this uh, I contributed to the uh, a little round table publication by the editor of Cuadernos Americanos in Mexico, started. And we all published little reports on wheeled animals. What we called at that time wheeled toys. And I wrote a more complete article for American Antiquity on wheeled toys in Middle America. I had not become a complete diffusionist at that time, so I tried to argue for the invention of the wheel in the New World as an explanation of these wheeled animals...

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