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{SPEAKER name="Gordon Ekholm"}
...coupled with the number of similarities, I think the more significance is in regards to, in regards to context. Metallurgy, for instance, which is, is always a very complex kind of thing. The smelting of metals, and the - the manufacture of objects from them, is not something that can be just invented everyday. It, to learn metallurgical techniques one has to, even in early times, to say nothing about now, now of course, metallurgy is extraordinarily complex, But say in the simplest forms of casting metals, it's still very, very complex. The - and it's something that probably must be taught by a person knowledgeable in the subject to someone else.

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{SPEAKER name="Gordon Ekholm"}
I uh, think the - the metal objects, metal technology in the New World is uh - it hasn't been proven that it is related to that of the Old World, although I suspect that there is a relationship. Part of the, another, not exactly a method, perhaps, but sort of basic to lots of things is the fact that developments occur at approximately the same time. I mean chronology is an important aspect of any assumption of...

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