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Transcription: [00:39:28]

{SPEAKER name="Gordon Ekholm"}

...the problem here, of course, is the Pacific Ocean, because it separates the Old World from the New World, at least in that direction, And it is very difficult to understand, how primitive peoples might have moved freely enough between the Old World and the New World to account for some of the or the several occurrences of apparent Trans-Pacific contact. I visualize contact at several different times.

[00:40:14]

Certainly, the possible origins of New World ceramics through the voyage from Japan postulated by Meggers and Evans is one of the earliest. Then I would think of possible contact between Bronze Age China (Shang and Zhou Dynasty) with the Olmec and Chavin. Perhaps further Chinese contact at the time of the time of the Hunan Dynasty and the beginning of [Tenochtitlan?], and finally, movements out of India or Southeast Asia into Maya area after 600 A.D.

[00:41:09]

Now there are really three possible routes of contact: one is by land across the far North - across the Bering Straits. It I think is possible that...

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