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{SPEAKER name="KARL HEIMBURG"}
He, um, was in charge of the test stand, uh, when it went into operation, at that time, and Scheufelen -- that may interest you -- he had then another idea.

[00:43:11]
{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
He built small rockets, tiny rockets, and launched them with a whole group.

[00:43:23]
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
So the idea was, if I have, um, what was the, s--same size as the 88—

[00:43:33]
{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
MmmHmm

[00:43:34]
{SPEAKER name="KARL HEIMBURG"}
—and I launch 20 of them at the same time, it's easier for me to hit the plane.

[00:43:40]
{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
MmHmm

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{SPEAKER name="KARL HEIMBURG"}
Instead of one heavy rocket, where you definitely will get that one plane, but this is an enormous expense.

[00:43:48]
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
If I can do that with smaller rockets, even if I use 20, this is by far cheaper.

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{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
So he started with that program, you may have heard about that.

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{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
The Taif--, what became Taifun?

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{SPEAKER name="KARL HEIMBURG"}
Taifun, yeah, that was Taifun.

{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
MmmHmm.

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{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
When did he first talk about that idea? 1943 or later?

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{SPEAKER name="KARL HEIMBURG"}
'43.
{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
MmmHmm

[00:44:09]
{SPEAKER name="KARL HEIMBURG"}
He came on the idea.

[00:44:11]
{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
So these are the 2 Luftwaffe people who were responsible or were assigned to the test-stand.

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{SPEAKER name="KARL HEIMBURG"}
Yeah, they were assigned to the test stand.

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{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
Haase was assigned by the Luftwaffe to make sure that the test stand went ahead, you know.

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{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
He checked me constantly, and I checked him.

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{SPEAKER name="Michael Neufeld"}
[[laughs]]
{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
[[laughs]]

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{SPEAKER name="Karl Heimberg"}
But we had a good understanding together.

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{SPEAKER name="MICHAEL NEUFELD"}
Was there any, um, let me stop.

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Transcription Notes:
I'm not sure what the name is at the very beginning. Shoufliend? -->Scheufelen Taifun (German) = Typhoon (English)