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{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
Still keeping within the medium. I mean, in the sense that you can control it.

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{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
Are you happy with what they are doing now? Are you familiar with, with uh, how photography is being taught at the Institute now? Do you have a-

[00:16:09]
{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
I have seen very little of that I thought was any good and I haven't been there for quite a while. I remember, was it [[??]] Richard

{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
You mean, Jerry Richard, yeah.

{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
Richard. Now, is he in the, he in the Endowment, the director of the Endowment?

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{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
No. Of the photographic part? The red head? No, Jim Melchart is newly the Head of the Endowment.

{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
Oh.

{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
--If that is what you are asking?

{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
Yes, yes yes, somebody said...

{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
He is the young man, youngish, not so young, from Berkeley.

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{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
[cross talk]]
--who's newly appointed.

{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
--Oh. One of the best people we got is uh--Bill Garnett.

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{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
I understand that.

{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
Marvelous, and a great inspirer of students.

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{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
Well, let me carry on for just a minute about the other photographers. There's Putzker, who is painting comes from

{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
Pritzker?

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{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
Putzker.

{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
Putzker, oh right.

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{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
He's, I think, primarily a painter [[?]]. He's awful good in the sense that he sort of makes people see.

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You know, observing something you may never saw before whereas he just pointed something out, like some kind of, Emit Keminsky [[?]] style. Then you move on up into the Mendocino area with [[Dora?]] Bathbaill who's always helped us tremendously, [[another fantastic?]] person. I'm bypassing Peter, by the way. There is another photographer but I can't remember his name.

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Then there is a group up at the Arcata, Eureka, [[?]] area.

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{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
I understand that. I don't know them.

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{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
Very good. Pretty straight.

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{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
Uh-huh, uh-huh?

{SPEAKER name="ANSEL ADAMS"}
And then you go on right up to Freemesser's group in Eugene, Oregon, Portland... And that's all I know. It should be a desert if you go East.

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{SPEAKER name="JAN BUTTERFIELD"}
What about, there's a whole movement of conceptual photography that is beginning to take place, now, there is a loft gallery, called La Mammelle here, which is new, which is performing an interesting service in that it shows unsaleable works of a contemporary nature that are experimental, and so and so, and doing a great deal with conceptual photography.

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Um, which seems to me to be a bastardization.