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{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
So, I mean, it is just a woman's paradise.

{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
And they make the things so beautifully.

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It's beautiful workmanship.

{SPEAKER name="MARTHA DEANE"}
'Course, what a good idea to get the material in Thailand and take it to Hong Kong.

{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
Yes, because it is more expensive in Hong Kong.

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If you buy the silk in Hong Kong, it's a little more.

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{SPEAKER name="MARTHA DEANE"}
So you had a lot of clothes made. Did you have shoes made, too?

{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
Yes, shoes, bags. We don't wear hats, but I suppose they make hats too.

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{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
They make anything, gloves, everything you have, that you want to wear, they will make.

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{SPEAKER name="MARTHA DEANE"}
And they do it very quickly, don't they?

{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
Well, yes they do.

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{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
It's better to work with them, though, more slowly. We had the time, so we took the time.

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{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
But, it was like a movie set. Here we were in this hotel, and they would be lined up, the different dressmakers, outside of the door, and as the engagement was coming to an end,-

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- and the clothes weren't ready, I'd call them and say, "you've got to hurry this now" - 'cause they knew we had time -

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- and there they were, lined outside of the door, about six of them. And they'd come in and we'd have fittings and then they would rush out and it was very funny seeing --

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And the Amah, that the owner of the hotel gave us, was there and trying to keep everything right. She, that's the maid, they call them in China. But that is certainly all women would love.

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{SPEAKER name="MARTHA DEANE"}
hmm, hmm.

{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
Oh, you can buy beautiful materials in Hong Kong. The English woolens are there. We had coats and Fall suits made. Everything.

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{SPEAKER name="MARTHA DEANE"}
And then you went to Tokyo.

{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
Yes. And then we went to Tokyo.

{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
And that is probably one reason we came back on a cargo ship. By then we were so overweight,-

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- because, ah --

{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
And we couldn't have flown - [[laughter]]

{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
Well, it was just something awful.

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You know, in Amsterdam, before leaving to fly to Tokyo, there's this very wonderful system: Your ticket is good for one year -

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- and you can stop at all these places, which we did, from Baghdad on - all through the Orient and Asia.

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But it was 8 dollars a pound overweight. So, in Amsterdam they said, "now we're going to let you get as far as Amsterdam, from Paris". They said, "this'll be a gift for you".

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We started throwing out everything from pencils to bobby pins and everything, so we wouldn't be overweight. Because my music weighs 25 pounds and the gowns weigh a great deal.

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So we were traveling as far as personal clothes, very - extremely lightly.

{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
Very few things.

{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
So from Hong Kong, our weight was enormous -

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- and we did have to pay overweight to get to Tokyo.

{SPEAKER name="MARTHA DEANE"}
You're talking about your baggage,--

{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
Yes.

{SPEAKER name="MARTHA DEANE"}
-- you're not talking about the two of you gaining so much weight-- [[laughter]]

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{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
No.

{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
Although we did gain a lot of weight in Vienna. They have the most wonderful food there that I have ever eaten.

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{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
Here we are back to--

{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
Wiener Schnitzel, and sauerkraut, and dumplings - divine food there. And we gained weight.

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{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
But we lost it in the Orient, because it's, ah--

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{SPEAKER name="MARTHA DEANE"}
Of all the places you went, did you like the food best in Vienna?

{SPEAKER name="LISA & JEANNE"}
I did.

{SPEAKER name="MARTHA DEANE"}
Did you?

{SPEAKER name="LISA & JEANNE"}
Yes. Oh, loved it.

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{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
There and Holland. 'Course you see, we do have more of the American taste, we really, when they cook with so much oil in the Latin countries, it's very hard when you're living there.

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But if you are going there for two weeks, I don't think that would bother anybody.

{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
That wouldn't matter, but--

{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
But when you live month in and month out in a country and have to eat your food saturated with olive oil, it's very hard.

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So Holland is just wonderful for food, and Vienna and Innsbruck. Austria, in other words.

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{SPEAKER name="MARTHA DEANE"}
Did you like Japanese food in Tokyo?

{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
Yes, especially sukiyaki or skiyaki as they call it. Now, that was delicious.

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But some of the other dishes, I wasn't too keen on. Seaweed and - [[laughter]] - I can't think of them all.

{SPEAKER name="MARTHA DEANE"}
Bird's nest?

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{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
Yes, but that type thing.

{SPEAKER name="MARTHA DEANE"}
Did you eat a bird's nest?

{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
No, I wasn't brave enough.

{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
Yes, I did.

{SPEAKER name="JEANNE PORTERFIELD"}
Oh, did you? I didn't remember that.

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{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
Bird's Nest Soup, isn't it called?

{SPEAKER name="MARTHA DEANE"}
Yes.

{SPEAKER name="LISA CHICKERING"}
Yes, oh, I--
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