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Transcription: [00:28:53]
{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
you know when I was talking about other artists, I had immediately got at a point, I've lost [[?]]. I'm much more interested in getting at a point, and the difference for me, ah, in seeing that Turrell show was exactly that difference. It was like the [[?]] extraordinary weird filming in a cartoon. If its set out to do that thing of being an extremely pretty space.

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
huh, huh [[affirmative]]
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{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
I really like being in space. It's hard to say that I didn't like it. There would be no way, you know. Then it succeeded A plus. OK?
[00:29:25]
Ah. But then when I came back the second time, I didn't have the, ah, kind of wholesome, holistic sense of real pleasure that I have even in things like going to see the [[Rocco?]] again, I really respond to. Or Still, whatever your talking about. He just gave it to me once and that was it.

{SPEAKER name="Michael Asher"}
Sure.
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{SPEAKER name="Jan Butterfield"}
And then it was done. I didn't get any more from it, I didn't get any less from it and it just sat there mute and compared in a kind of way. And then, that's all it did, it didn't go anywhere from there. OK.
[00:29:58]
And the difference from and any number of other pieces by other artists you want to think of, whether you have a changing hours of daylight or sun or the simplicity of them, or whatever, um,
[00:30:08]
there is a real difference, there's something to chew on for a variety of reasons, I need to perceive the work somewhat differently, because the light has changed or it's rare or it's brighter, or whatever, you know.
[00:30:17]
Um, one of the reasons I think that [[Erid's?]] Market Street piece, I think that's probably one of the best screen pieces he has ever done. Because there was that simplicity, very simple thing to do. It's an extremely powerful piece. There was front and there was skim and existing skylines, it's all, [[?]] alright. But that piece was different, you know. 47 different periods of the day. And it made a real issue about, I feel a real issue
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