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MRS STARR: Did he do any other paintings?

MINNIE: Yes, he did some other paintings of a good bit of them in their family. Ruth and her children, he did. But what become of the paintings I don't know. He was--

MRS STARR: Was he your great uncle?

MINNIE: Oh, yes, great uncle. My Grandmother's brother, he was.

MRS STARR: And you remember-- Do you remember Great Grandmother Rachel?

MINNIE: Oh, yes.

MRS STARR: You remember her?

MINNIE: I certainly do remember her.

MRS STARR: Just when you were a little girl?

MINNIE: When I was a little girl.

MRS STARR: Yes.

MINNIE: Yes. Because-- See, I was born in 18 and 92. The riot was in '98, in Wilmington, and--

MRS STARR: Do you remember that?

MINNIE: Oh, yes, I remember that. And my-- And Grandmother left Wilmington just as soon as it closed, about-- She left Wilmington in '99. And she--

MRS STARR: You never saw her again?

MINNIE: Oh, no, I never saw her any more. She went out to New York and got young ideas in her head and married a young man and soon died. (Laughs)

MRS STARR: That's too bad. Yes.

MINNIE: Yes. But I remember her very much.

MRS STARR: Do you remember the great uncle who did the painting?