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W2 p.87 CELESTINE WARE-WBAI 3-5-1971 11 MINNIE EVANS C.W. Your first - you didn't use crayons and oils? M.E. Yes, I didn't use oil. I used crayons. I used ink. C.W. Colored ink? M.E. Uh-huh. Colored ink. That's what I did. C.W. What did you draw on? What kind of material did you draw on? Did you use canvas or did you use paper? M.E. Oh! yes I used paper. Now when I first started some of my first pictures all along like 1940, '44 and '45 during the war then I couldn't get no good paper. (C.W. Yes, that's right) There wasn't any good paper here. I had to go to stationary and get some paper ten cents per dozen, and some of that was not on good paper as now. C.W. Do you ever draw? Have you ever painted on a canvas? M.E. Yes, I have a lot of painting on canvasses. C.W. How did your friendship with the photographer Nina Starr begin? Where did you meet Miss Starr? M.E. Meet Mrs. Starr? A doctor from Gainesville, Florida down where they live. He and his wife they came to the garden. I keep that beautiful garden. C.W. That's right, you take - you collect tickets there right? M.E. That's right. So they came there and they saw my paintings. Though they had seen them from somebody down Florida had got a picture from me and they saw it and they came here and they wanted to see some other pictures. So he and his wife got two or three paintings from me. One of them they got I didn't want him to have after he was gone with it. I had them in a book. I had them numbered. That's picture number 5 in the book, in that book. I says I didn't want them to have that picture. I want it. So he give me his address where he was going and I sat down and wrote him a letter [[right margin]] I have a copy of that letter to Dr. Schwarz [[/right margin]] and asked him if he would return that picture to me I would give him another. Instead of he sending the pictures back he